RE: Hey Atheists. Care to explain this?
July 6, 2018 at 9:30 am
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2018 at 9:49 am by Brian37.)
(July 6, 2018 at 8:51 am)Rokie123 Wrote:(July 6, 2018 at 8:40 am)Brian37 Wrote: Don't pull your politically correct bullshit with me.And what about the immigrants who wanna escape crappy countries with corrupt government. They are gonna see your piggy is full of money and opportunities. Are you gonna be a cuckold country like Europe and follow the neo marxist mentality. I honestly don't care about whatever you said now, i want to know that with socialism this crap is gonna happen. And the best way is to maybe not adopt socialism because then its gonna be just safe heaven for leechers and people who don't wanna fix their own countries in a nutshell. Its literally rewarding corrupt powers who sees this as an opportunity to send it over seas without fixing their own government.
1. I am a liberal, but no, that DOES NOT give other liberals the right to hide behind political correctness. I will always value non violence and human rights, but that DOES NOT make everything you claim true deserving of no criticism.
2. My mother was real and I can prove she existed. FYI she died last year. Having said that, unlike my mother whom I can prove existed, there is ZERO evidence of any type of super natural being. So yea, I do challenge those claims in the same way one grows up and gives up on the idea of Santa.
I could give shit less if you wanted to claim Vishnu was real, or Thor was real. I may like you as an individual, but that does not constitute universal unbias evidence. I owe my fellow human the dignity of non violence, but that does not mean I have to remain silent in the face of unfounded claims.
I am tired of this bullshit. Wanting livable wages for workers is not calling for the end of the private sector. Wanting affordable health care and education that doesn't break the bank, does not make me a Cuba or Stalin loving commie.
I am for the policies that gave rise to our middle class after WW2. I am for the private sector, just not abuse of power. I am for freedom of religion, just not theocracies. I am anti monopoly, on all aspects of society. I view all issues and claims as case by case.
I do not want a Cuba or Russia style government. But I also do not want the GOP/Libertarian "fuck you I got mine" "let the rich do what they want all the time".
FYI, "capitalism" is not a form of government. China is an oppressive state that allows capitalism, which is why when someone shops at Walmart the majority of what they buy their is made by PRIVATE COMPANIES, made in CHINA. Fidel Castro had an estimated personal wealth of $800 MILLION. Gadaffi was a BILLIONAIRE whom owned stock in General Electric.
ALSO, if you would do some research on Hitler and the Nazis, he did not end the private sector, he simply stole private business and gave it to party loyalists.
There is absolutely NO government, friend or foe alike, that does not partake in the global market.
I am anti monopoly, pro worker, neither nanny state Communism, nor "no rules" "let the rich use us like objects".
If you study economic history, the policies that caused the stock market crash in 1929 were "no rules". After WW2 the private sector still existed, and religion still existed. But, the focus shifted to regulations to create stability, not in order to stop business, but in order to prevent it from causing another global crash.
Your mistake in posting your crappy OP, is you ran into educated posters.
I don't think your education system is gonna help once your country is sucked dried not to mention tribalism that foreigners also have with how they view religious culture like islam lack of humanism to mention a few with how western countries over the year had to fight for humanism and adapt christianity to work with it.
Btw i dont really mind if you wanna make a hobby of mocking fairy tales aslong as you dont promote sexual abusive environments or bad stuff. Like you can criticize immorale religious people all day long or whatever stuff, just like atheists who support cannibalism too are morons. But it would be bad to forget the big picture. Whic h i can assume to a socialist/neo nazi/neo facist or communist is just not gonna address right? Better not talk about it or platform those people, amirite?
If President Shithole keeps fucking up the country, I'd be one of those trying to escape. If anyone is acting like a fascist, he is. He has vilified entire races and religions, attacked war heros, ignored and attacked his own intel and still does, on top of vilifying the free press.
Yes, what about refugees whom are non violent not wanting to die in a war? What about migrants who are trying to escape famine and crime? I think those who are innocent and non violent deserve protection. I don't see how that makes me a communist whom loves dictators. Trump is the asshole who just called Un "honorable".
(July 6, 2018 at 9:28 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Brian is nothing if not willing to enthusiastically engage any idea espoused by anyone ever.
Um no, don't confuse my multitasking as always making an argument just to have one. And don't confuse the amount I post either.
I don't give any label a pass when I think they got it wrong, including my fellow atheists. I have been consistent in always supporting human rights and non violence and I always will.
I like Atlass and Catholic lady, but no, I do not agree that a god exists, or that they need one. I'd side with them on other issues if I agree, such as economic views when I find agreement. I'd side with Ann Frank before I would support Bibi. But that does not obligate me to agree that Yahweh exists.
Yes, I am passionate, no I will not apologize for that.