RE: Can God love?
July 7, 2018 at 6:23 pm
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2018 at 6:28 pm by possibletarian.)
(July 6, 2018 at 11:15 am)SteveII Wrote:(July 6, 2018 at 9:39 am)possibletarian Wrote: Yes i understand that, but god is in full control of and indeed IS all those things all these things isn't he ?
So, the question remains, why not simply forgive the sin and the debt, what could be owed to a god that has everything ?
No, you are not understanding. Holiness and Justice are part of the nature of God and cannot be set aside--even by him. Sin has consequences affecting these attributes. The consequences must be dealt with--satisfying a requirement, which is not the same as an act of God's will (as forgiveness is).
Oh I do understand, but what I don't understand is why you think that god would demand death (consequences) because that's the rules and his holiness/righteousness judgement requires it, then think it's fine he breaks his own rules by sacrificing an innocent person ? isn't that breaking his own rules of righteous judgement too ? I mean it's not even like jesus's death was ever going to be permanent or anything so he didn't even really pay the price, only played at paying the price.
Even we understand that having the innocent suffer, even as a free choice does not satisfy anything, and if so again we are back to the question..
Why didn't he simply let us off, given that he clearly pays fast and free with his own (supposedly) unbreakable rules anyway. ?
The truth is if god is not big enough to deal in an adult manner with people doing stuff wrong, then what kind of feeble god is he. ?
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'