RE: Refusing service because of political party.
July 9, 2018 at 5:24 pm
(This post was last modified: July 9, 2018 at 5:34 pm by Amarok.)
Quote:I bet (know) that the people who say this is fine would be (will be) crying foul when it happens to their political party.Nope but this isn't about mere political disagreement
(July 9, 2018 at 5:18 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:Don't try to explain history to Neo he has a skewed vision of it built on Right Wing revisionism(July 9, 2018 at 1:37 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: ^^^this.
Individual liberty means generally not being compelled by force of law to live contrary to one's own best judgement consistent with the common good and justice. To me that means, you are free to be as stupid as you want so long as you do not cause harm to others, directly by threats and violence, or indirectly by creating latent dangers, like building unsafe structures or dumping pollutants.
If a fancy restaurant can require men to wear jackets, I see no reason why another cannot ask someone to remove their MAGA hat or cover their BLM t-shirt. Apart from immanent danger and undue hardship, turning away prospective customers, for any reason or no reason at all, does no real harm. It may be demeaning, humiliating, frustrating, and/or infuriating but, other than emotional upset the rejected customer, walks away unscathed. And the business loses the sale it could have had. Everyone loses.
Although I am generally a libertarian, I recognize that securing personal liberties is not enough to maintain a free society. The preservation and enjoyment of those liberties requires a mostly virtuous and responsible populace. There may be a place for civil laws that proactively encourage virtue and foster civic responsibility...or not. I'm not sure what kind or to what degree. So I would rather err on the side of refraining from curtailing personal liberties or mandating behaviors than let state agencies and politicians decide for individuals what is in their own best interest.
Yeah, nevermind things like Jim Crow laws and systematic discrimination. Fuck them, we need to pussy foot around here.
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