(July 11, 2018 at 5:41 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:(July 11, 2018 at 1:50 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don't know... and neither do you if you don't listen to it. Maybe something will be presented in a new way that will resonate. As I said, it's one thing, if you don't want to listen or discuss; or if you have a disagreement with something specific. It's another to just attack a persons character, without even hearing them out.
I don't think that most atheists disagree with Christianity for rational reasons, and many may mention critical thinking, much more than they practice it; but I'm will to discuss an idea. Perhaps I have a misunderstanding, or will learn something. Or we can all just stay in our perspective echo chambers. I also find that most of the things people call fallacious (such as the kalam cosmological argument) is full of bad thinking. And when given reason for why it is bad logic; atheists fall back to name calling and attacking the person. Would you like me to judge you based on past experience, or should I be at least willing to hear you out?
FFS, I can't stand it when someone upchucks the 'conversion by YouTube' strategy where I'm supposed to watch something just in case it might change my mind. It's not my job to do all the work of changing my mind. I know it's very convenient to sales people when they can get someone to research their product themselves, but if you can't convey the essential points of what you're trying to sell in your own words, I'm not going to bother.
Not watching your YouTube links is not 'not hearing you out'. Reading your posts is hearing you out. Anything else is homework, which I have utterly no obligation to undertake.
I understand. I’m not particularly fond of videos myself. And I agree with asking someone to discuss rather than just argument by link.
This was short and was mostly about what I have been saying. I seen it recently, and some people do seem to prefer videos, so I shared.
If the comment was “I don’t watch videos, please discuss” I wouldn’t have said anything. I’ve probably said similar in the past.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther