(September 13, 2011 at 8:09 pm)padraic Wrote:Quote:If I am wrong. I have lost nothing by following the teachings that give me patience to endure you and many like you. If I am wrong, you have lost nothing and lived a good life.
2. If I am right. I have lost nothing,
Oh for goodness sake! Pascal's wager? Is that the best you can do?
Your assertion also implies an atheist cannot live a good (moral) life.That is an ignorant and impertinent thing to say.
Patience to endure us? What? Were you forced to come here? No you were not. Please try avoid patronising us, there's a good girl. Not for our sake you understand,indeedly doodly not. Because I think you're probably quite nice really,but in the post I quoted, you come across as a smug bitch.
Pad, let's clear this up, between the two of us:
1. "Is that the best you can do?" - Being myself, speaking my mind, telling you what I have learned is the best I can do. I love the person I've become and I love that I am changing and growing even now, to become a better person in the future, all through the love of Christ.
2. Patience to endure - I was speaking directly to Aleia and I was speaking about people with her kind of anger toward me specifically, an anger that brings about personal insult, not just irritation with an opposing thought. Atheists are capable of disagreeing and being respectful at the same time, unless you Pad are saying it's otherwise, and we both know you can't speak for every atheist.
3. Never heard of Pascal's Wager until now. My belief is simple: what do you lose by following the teachings of Christ? I assert: you lose nothing, instead you gain everything.
4. I said, "..lived a good life." Does that somehow mean immoral? I don't think it does. A good life to me means you have lived with no regrets, you enjoyed your time and then it's over. You are the one that has thrown in this idea that I'm excluding morality, which I am not. I believe that everyone has a sense of morality.
5. I came to this forum of my own accord and I expected some attitude because my opinions were different, but never to the heights of which I have experienced from some people. Also, am I not responsible to answer for all that I have said among you? What kind of Christian would I be to say something and then "disappear?" Maybe that's how the people you've met in the past react, but you're talking to me now...I do not back down from what I have said, even if I have contradicted myself, I would rather apologize than give anyone fakeness. Pad, I choose my words and I will stand by them. I deliberate over how I will "speak" to everyone on this forum, because I care and I want you (and them) to recognize me when I am there, in person. It is my goal to meet people from this forum, so that a real conversation can insue, one where you can look into my eyes and see just how serious I am about you and about the Lord.
6. Little girl? I'm sure it would all be very different if we were speaking in person.
7. I can only sound smug if you think I'm right, apparently my confidence is in something that doesn't exist. Someone with confidence in something that doesn't exist doesn't sound smug, just ignorant.
What is your response Pad? You too seem like a nice guy.
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." Hebrews 11:6
