RE: Geocentric Earth
July 15, 2018 at 6:37 pm
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2018 at 7:30 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(July 14, 2018 at 4:31 pm)Haipule Wrote: New to me but looks interesting. Any arguments for or, against?
The Earth certainly can be a center of the universe. “Center” is after all a elastic concept. You can certainly name the earth the center by definition. You can construct coordinate systems where the earth is always at the origin. But if we are to use descernible attribute as oppose to arbitrary definition as basis for calling the earth the center, then we run into the problem of being unable to identify any meaningful actual attribute of the earth or of the universe that clearly makes the earth distinctly and uniquely the center of the universe. In other words earth is unable to fit any meaningful attribute based definition of the center better than an infinite array of other candidates.
(July 15, 2018 at 6:23 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(July 14, 2018 at 4:31 pm)Haipule Wrote: New to me but looks interesting. Any arguments for or, against?
Yes, though you won't accept any, but however...
1. Geocentric means earth centred. Somehow, you don't know this. I have no idea why that might be.
2. "Geocentric earth" therefore means "earth centered earth" a tautology. Earth can't be anything but earth centered. Wanna go for barycentres? We can do that, but you haven't a foggiest what those are, so I hold little hope on that score.
3. Geocentrism requires either one of two options. Stars can exceed the speed of light, which we know is false, OR, stars are all within 0.16 light years of earth, which we also know is false.
Now, I know what your response will be, but I recommend you avoid that intractable marshland.
1. Yes.
2. That’s not the only possible way to interpret the phrase “geocentric earth”. It could also mean “earth in a geocentric frame of reference”, or “earth in a geocentric universe”.
3. It does not require that. The observable universe can be exactly what it is, and yet the earth is at it’s exact geometric center. Observations do not preclude it, but they offer no evidence whatsoever for it. The system of understanding the universe that does not give the earth a uniquely central position explains everything we’ve observed more cleanly and less contrivedly.