RE: My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
July 18, 2018 at 9:43 am
(This post was last modified: July 18, 2018 at 9:52 am by Mister Agenda.)
(July 17, 2018 at 6:10 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:(July 17, 2018 at 4:46 pm)SteveII Wrote: I want to see an atheist correctly articulate the doctrine of the trinity. Should be easy with most of you claiming to know exactly what Christians believe and how stupid they are to believe it. Go ahead...consider it a triple-dog dare. Lets stick with the most common concept found in the Apostle's Creed.
Even christians don't know "exactly" what christians believe. There is no single articulation of the doctrine of trinity for all of christianity.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/trini...story.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontrinita..._positions
I was raised United Pentecostal. Jesus is God. The name of the father, the son, and the holy ghost is Jesus. You baptize in the name of Jesus to receive the holy ghost. There is no trinity, there's just the one God, Jesus. Jesus created the universe, and Jesus became human to save humanity. Should I articulate the heresy of the trinity from the apostle's creed? Papist!
Though I should note, the apostle's creed (a good evangelical fundamentalist should be following the Bible, not some creed the papists came up with) doesn't actually define the trinity. It's compatible with old-school Christian Unitarian doctrine, because it doesn't state that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are God. For a 'Oneness' Christian, the whole thing is right out.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.