RE: My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
July 19, 2018 at 1:39 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2018 at 1:52 pm by SteveII.)
(July 19, 2018 at 12:25 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(July 19, 2018 at 11:51 am)SteveII Wrote: Mormons are not Christians. There have to be at least some basic requirements to adhere to the NT and they don't come close to the basics.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/201...-away.html
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its side." -- Celsus (2nd century C.E.)
As I said before, Christianity is simply whatever it is that Christians believe. Your absurd notion that there is some "correct" party line dividing Christians from pretenders to Christianity is just some partisan bullshit that you believe. It doesn't have an ounce of logical weight.
That make no sense whatsoever. Christianity at its base makes a certain set of metaphysical, natural and supernatural truth claims. The nature of many basic Christian claims is exclusive. By definition if an ideology is exclusive, it claims that those ideological beliefs that are in conflict with it are false. Therefore it appears there is at least a basic list of truth claims you must agree to or you are excluded. Where do we get ANY of the truth claims from? The NT. Therefore if your belief is in obvious conflict with the NT, then it follows that belief is not Christian.
Another proof, say in 1000 years, there are no Christians. Would the ideology labeled Christianity cease to exist? No, it could be rediscovered if someone were to ready the NT. What if a scholar compared the NT with the The Book of Mormon? Would they be able to list the precepts of one against the other and make a comparison? What would the columns be labeled? If they conflicted, can you logically claim they are all Christian?
For example, Mormons are polytheistic. That is direct conflict with any number of foundational precepts that Christianity claims. Mormons are not Christians.