RE: My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
July 19, 2018 at 6:32 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2018 at 6:56 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(July 19, 2018 at 8:31 am)SteveII Wrote:(July 18, 2018 at 10:17 pm)Succubus Wrote: Correct! I have no fucking idea.
I'm shocked. Including Catholic, Protestant, and Eastern Orthodox, more than 99%. Kind of undercuts the whole "they don't even know what they believe" stupid comments.
Well, if you cut out the Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Scientists, Oneness Pentecostals, Unitarian Christians, and United Church of God, and a few others, including some South American ones; you're probably right. However, you don't have the authority to exclude them. It's just your opinion that they should not be included when counting up Christians. There are plenty of evangelicals who would exclude the Orthodox and Catholic churches and they don't get to make that call either; except among themselves.
(July 19, 2018 at 10:00 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote:(July 19, 2018 at 9:40 am)SteveII Wrote: Catholics and Eastern Orthodox believe in the trinity, There are only a few protestant groups that don't believe in the trinity. With 2.3 billion Christians, 1% would be 23,000,000. Those groups are not that big. The constant charge that there are so many opinions within Christianity on the subject is stupid.
I agree.
I think it's equally stupid to pretend that the doctrine is necessarily baked into Christian belief or was there from the beginning of the movement, and not something cobbled together as a "solution" to a long-standing problem for the church. The number of people who subsequently embraced the doctrine, after the church had effectively labeled alternative understandings as heresies and rooted them out, is neither impressive nor compelling.
By finding out what I could about the membership of nontrinitarian Christian denominations on Wikipedia and low-balling it (picking the bottom of the ranges) I get a minimum of 36 million members of nontrinitarian Christian denominations.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.