(July 25, 2018 at 1:11 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:Quote:Yes, so then it would follow that my car working sub optimally, shows that it evolved, rather than being designed by an intelligent agent. Never mind, that I was trying to run it through water too fastWow a stupid analogy that does not address the point and tries to sneak unfounded nonsense into the convo.
If life were designed we would expect it to be optimal as their is no rational reason it should not be and mere functionality is not enough.
If life is the result of evolution we expect it to be sub optimal because of the undirected forces involved but it should still function
Optimal for what (or in whose opinion)? Why do you not think that the same reasoning would apply to my car? Have you considered, that this argument is based on faulty reasoning and or assumptions? This is not a very good argument against design or for evolution as is seen easily when applied to my car, or any other thing that we know is designed.
That and evidence shows that changes by chance are far more likely to cause dysfunction, than to create new functions.
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