RE: Geocentric Earth
July 28, 2018 at 2:02 am
(This post was last modified: July 28, 2018 at 2:20 am by Haipule.)
(July 27, 2018 at 5:08 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:So what your saying is that during a new moon the moon is being eclipsed by earth? Because the moon orbits the earth. So, no reflection. Therefore, not visible to the naked eye. And because, only the earth facing the moon could see it otherwise, anyway, only with a enhanced eye looking in the correct place. I'm cool with that.(July 27, 2018 at 3:46 am)Haipule Wrote: Let me try this again. Ok, we have phases of the moon visible, night and day, to us except the new moon. We see a waning and waxing moon to full day and night. We only watch solar and lunar eclipses. Why don't we see at least some black dot, during the day, in the sky during a new moon?
Unless the moon is behind the sun. Well, if during a new moon, the moon is behind the sun, then how is the moon NOT orbiting the sun and not the earth?
You can't be that stupid (or maybe you can, not for me to judge).
You don't see the new moon during the day because the sun isn't shining on it. When you see the moon in any other phase during daylight hours, you only see the part illuminated by the sun, the rest of the moon - even though still there - looks like the rest of the sky.
You grasp that the sun is substantially more distant from us than the moon is, correct?
Boru
But then, I should be able to see the new moon, using a telescope, when I am rotated to face the eclipsed new moon. Of course, the other side of earth has no chance at such an observation. How am I doing so far?
(July 27, 2018 at 1:20 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:I love you smart ass!(July 27, 2018 at 5:10 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Auto-didacticism.... fail.
The auto part certainly didn’t fail.
(July 27, 2018 at 3:46 am)Haipule Wrote: Let me try this again. Ok, we have phases of the moon visible, night and day, to us except the new moon. We see a waning and waxing moon to full day and night. We only watch solar and lunar eclipses. Why don't we see at least some black dot, during the day, in the sky during a new moon?
Unless the moon is behind the sun. Well, if during a new moon, the moon is behind the sun, then how is the moon NOT orbiting the sun and not the earth?
Ur, because the new moon is as unlit as the rest of black sky we see at night, so during the day it will look exactly as how the rest of sky looks during the day?
Less self-assurance, more study and reflection. At where you are, there is no possibility that would could fail to help a lot every time.
If the moon really orbits the sun and new moon is when the moon is behind the sun, you might think the moon would actually get more fully lit as it moves to the other side of the sun and closer to new moon, rather than less fully lit? No? Not seeing it yet?
Okay, the moon really orbits the sun and new moon is when the moon is behind the sun, you might think the moon would always look smaller than the sun when it is approaching new moon, because it is further away from earth, then other times? No? Still not seeing it?
(July 27, 2018 at 5:52 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You can, in fact, see an occluded area on the starfield where the new moon is. You have to look, of course. If you do and you look in the right spot you'll see a black dot about the size of the Moon as seen from Earth.Thank you for that! I'll see if I can find some google images.
(July 27, 2018 at 6:00 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:Drunken ass? I resemble that!(July 27, 2018 at 5:52 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You can, in fact, see an occluded area on the starfield where the new moon is. You have to look, of course. If you do and you look in the right spot you'll see a black dot about the size of the Moon as seen from Earth.
That would actually require getting off his drunken ass and actually examining the evidence instead of simply pontificating ex cathedra. Somehow I don't think that's in his play book.
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