(August 11, 2018 at 4:07 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Goodness and morality in Atheistic paradigm has to be subjective and ungrounded and created through relatively chaotic means. If it is so, everything we assume about it is baseless, and it's a delusion.
For just 2 sentences, you couldn't have possibly got more wrong.
First of all, there are secular moral systems that and grounded in objective reality. That objective reality is the physical universe, and the physical laws we are all subject to.
Second, it is possible to create a moral system based on the above, that is far from chaotic.
All you have to do is base morality on the well being (and ability to flourish) for humans.
From this basis, and taking into consideration a few simple prescepts, a moral system can be derived.
Just google for the video, "The superiority of secular morality".
Also google "The veil of ignorance" for a related topic..
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
