(August 29, 2018 at 8:06 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(August 29, 2018 at 2:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: For an "all-knowing" god this asshole seems to fuck up a lot.
How come you didn't know that was going to happen when you "anointed" him, asswipe?
You guys love to take scripture out of context...
God's original purpose was to lead the nation of Israel through a prophet, the first being Moses.
Later the nation of Israel wanted to be like the other nations and switch from a theocracy to a monarchy, which was not God's will for them to do, but he allowed it.
1 Samuel 8:4-21
Quote:So all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah. They said to him, “You are old, and your sons do not follow your ways; now appoint a king to lead us, such as all the other nations have.”
But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord. And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will claim as his rights.”
Samuel tries to warn them that if they have a king, then they will basically become peasants and serfs and when they eventually come under the rulership of a tyrant, they will cry to God, but he will not hear them.
Quote:But the people refused to listen to Samuel. “No!” they said. “We want a king over us. Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.”
When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the Lord. The Lord answered, “Listen to them and give them a king.”
So to answer you question, God DID know what would happen, but the x-factor as always is free will...
So the people wanted a king, and god amounted a man he knew would mess up. What did they do, twist his divine arm and make him say uncle? How can you expect me to worship such a brown nose?
Free will is just a disingenuous way of admitting that there is no god. It's all about people, what they want, and what they do.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.