RE: Ontological Disproof of God
September 5, 2018 at 8:47 pm
(This post was last modified: September 5, 2018 at 9:07 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 5, 2018 at 7:52 pm)negatio Wrote: Khemikal, no way could you have, in such a short time, once and for all determined that I "expressed things that were untrue".OFC I could have, and did. It doesn't really matter who had the original thought. You're here as an advocate for it and in that capacity it doesn't make sense to hide under their skirt. Your insistence that laws are wholly incapable of compelling human determination is false, and trivially so. There are some things that some people avoid for no reason other than prohibition by law. I don't grow weed. If you asked around the boards...you'd likely find that there is at least one thing that everyone here avoids for no reason other than the law. You should know this...I can't imagine that you're any different in that regard. There's a good convo to be had on the margins, of when and what sorts of things those may be, or whether any given law is a good law on those grounds....but you'd have to engage.
Additionally, whatever the dumb christer god didn't know about us (and the list is long) our spotty ability to conform to law wasn't one of those things. It took the dim and inaccurate view that you, ironically, espouse..claiming that none of us could be righteous. Can you see why this makes the argument you offered in the OP a failure on every count? I could add another wrinkle. The conclusion doesn't actually follow. Even if you weren't as wrong as you are with both relevant assertions......it's a non seq.
I tell my son not to do things I know he'd do (and things I know he -can't- do) with regularity. Do you think that I or anyone else does this out of ignorance of the nature of our charges?
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