(October 5, 2018 at 10:53 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote:(October 5, 2018 at 10:22 am)Rahn127 Wrote: Rik, when you're asleep for 8 hours and you awaken with the memory of several dreams, can do determine at what time during your 8 hour sleep that you had those dreams ?
Did you have a dream at midnight ?
Or 2 am or 3 am ?
Or is it the one that woke you up that you're fairly certain you just experienced at 6 am ?
With NDE's you have people that recount an experience that happened in their brain. It's hard to say if that experience happened as their brain was dying or perhaps it happened as their brain was being saved and they were regaining consciousness.
We don't have any accounts from people who have remained dead. All the accounts are from people who lived. A dead man tells no tales.
FYI, you can be having literally this very exchange with Rik three years from now. He’s a True Believer, who will never concede a necessary brain-consciousness connection. It’s just a question of how much obstinacy, wrong-headedness, taunting at the hands of an idiot, and the number of cloying fucking emojis you are willing to endure.
You’ve been warned.
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Yup. You will not get anywhere. You won’t even make any mild progress towards some reasonable middle ground. You’re welcome to try, of course! You will just be insulted and have assertions and bad analogies thrown at you for as long as you persist.
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