(October 8, 2018 at 10:26 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(October 8, 2018 at 10:15 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Your. Book. Is. Not. Proof.
Dear LadyForCamus, does it make sense human books can contain proofs, but that a book from God cannot contain proofs?
Every verse in there is a proof, but you have to understand it, and if you can understand the verses which are signs of God and their place in the Surah and can understand the Surah and it's place in the Book, then the dark veil will be removed by God's permission.
It's not circular reasoning to believe God if he exists can prove everything he says and fabric and weave together a series of words, that interpret each other and all hold on to each other, and manifest one another, and that his book can be designed to be endless in knowledge, and that in time and with study and reflecting, a person can see that indeed it is beyond capability of a human.
And so whether Quran is that book or not, at least, acknowledge, that if God exists, he can prove things and not only that, but prove all that he speaks, and only speak things that are proofs of his and that will give insights through reflection.
He can bring about majestic wonders not only through physical miracles, but through words. This is a rational position.
Nope. Your argument is a giant, unsupported circle. Always has been, and always will be. I don’t believe in things argued for using fallacies, MK.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.
