RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any ?
October 10, 2018 at 12:20 pm
(This post was last modified: October 10, 2018 at 12:21 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(October 10, 2018 at 11:44 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:(October 10, 2018 at 11:41 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: A hypothesis is not evidence unless it has withstood testing. Without experimentation or useful predictions to support it, a hypothesis is no more than a 'maybe'.
It's just as valid as hypothesis that consciousness exists inside brain
We certainly can't detect any signs of consciousness where a brain is not present. Things that affect the brain affect consciousness, e.g., specific memories and feeling 'a presence' can be invoked by electrical stimulation of the brain, 'qualia' can be altered by drugs or damage that affect the brain, and the more we understand the brain, the more supported the hypothesis that consciousness resides there becomes. And the alternative hypotheses all seem to rest on effects that can't even be shown to bein effect. All of the evidence that is available points to consciousness being generated by the brain, there's no evidence of outside signals, quantum effects that alter brain activity, or any mechanism that would allow for a possibility of either of those options. Consciousness residing in the brain is the only hypothesis that has any evidential support at all.
I have no dog in this race. If 'quantum consciousness' is ever experimentally confirmed, I'm on board. Until then, it seems perverse to reject the explanation than not only has the most evidence, it explains the most while still being consistent with the evidence.
I'm curious, do you doubt that God could have designed us to function in the way that we apparently do, without requiring remote control or inherently random quantum events to think and feel? There's nothing about us being puppets of our souls in the Bible, it contradicts nothing in the Bible for our bodies and souls to be one while we're alive. Pardon me for assuming your Abrahamic, just playing the odds.
(October 10, 2018 at 12:17 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote:(October 10, 2018 at 12:15 pm)possibletarian Wrote: Do you know of anywhere else other than a material brain being present where you can establish the presence of a consciousness ?Parallel universe, some supernatural realm, etc.
Those aren't things you can 'know', at least a present.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.