(October 10, 2018 at 12:26 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote:(October 10, 2018 at 12:20 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Things that affect the brain affect consciousness, e.g., specific memories and feeling 'a presence' can be invoked by electrical stimulation of the brain, 'qualia' can be altered by drugs or damage that affect the brain, and the more we understand the brain, the more supported the hypothesis that consciousness resides there becomes.Affecting brain of p-zombie will give you same results so you can't claim that you are affecting consciousness
(October 10, 2018 at 12:25 pm)possibletarian Wrote: By computer they mean 'something that computes'
How can you compute qualia?
You seem to be stuck on this silicone computer, organic brain comparison, no one is making that. We openly admit there are thing about the brain we do not know (and by extension you do not know) but in the complete absence of any evidence of a supernatural world we don't add that in as a possibility.
We do not even know what consciousness is, but we do experience it and there is absolutely no evidence it happens outside of the brain, so why assume so, what reasoning or evidence do you have ? As for qualia (or experience) we know you can very much alter those by altering the chemical properties of the brain, again if you have reason to conclude it's not part of the brains function then elaborate why you believe so.
Try answering the questions first, you have been asked multiple times why you believe it to be so, and all you seem to managed to do is claim we can't prove otherwise, which really is not an answer as to why you believe it to be so.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'