(October 10, 2018 at 12:59 pm)polymath257 Wrote:(October 10, 2018 at 12:51 pm)SteveII Wrote: And right there is your problem. When you talk about THINGS like events, they are accumulated one after another. They can be plotted on a timeline, ticked off with a pencil. At no time does any amount of accumulated events become an infinite quantity. You think that just asserting there already is infinite amount of events somehow circumvents the impossibility.
As I have challenged both you and Grandizer 20 times before. Just post an article from a reputable source that backs up your claim there can be an infinite amount of actual real concrete objects. I really don't think that is too much to ask and until you do, I don't think it unreasonable to point out that you are very confused.
Make sure you differentiate between concrete and abstract objects in your article search.
I'm really wondering what you are expecting here. This is recognized generally by most cosmologists. For infinite space, it is supported by the zero curvature of space (although not proven).
Since most science articles are interested in the observational aspects, we don't see *proof* that there are infinitely many objects. But again, that is a different issue than whether it is a logical impossibility. After Cantor, it is generally recognized to not be a logical issue, but an observational one.
Take any article in cosmology and see if it allows for infinite space. Essentially every one does. Take any article that discusses something prior to the Big Bang and see if it allows for infinite time. Essentially every article of that type does.
if you really want a list from arxiv.org, I can supply one.
You misunderstand. I don't want a science article. I want to see an article that argues that an actual infinity of concrete objects can logically exists. Your entire argument rests on this. You are making metaphysical (not scientific) claims and therefore you need metaphysical reasoning to support your metaphysical claims.