(October 10, 2018 at 1:30 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote:(October 10, 2018 at 1:21 pm)possibletarian Wrote: I don't assume anything, we do however know there is always a brain involved the question isScience doesn't know that. Science never observed consciousness. Scientifically consciousness doesn't exist so you can't claim that something that doesn't exist is located inside brain.
Garbage. We observe conscious entities all the time. For that matter, we interact with conscious entities all the time. We can study these entities and figure out what sorts of things affect them and their level of consciousness. We can correlate those observations with other information we collect, say about location of brain damage from strokes or bullets and determine which areas of the brain mediate which aspects of conscious behavior. We have learned how to use brain scans to read simple thoughts, how to use such to direct movement of robotic arms to restore limbs, etc. We have learned the specific chemistry of different brain regions and correlated that chemistry with behavior and other aspects of consciousness.
Everything we have shows that consciousness, thoughts, emotions, feelings, etc are ALL aspects of how the brain processes information.
The concept of a philosophical zombie is a thought-experiment that is ultimately incoherent: such entities could not exist. Once we know the physical aspects of the brain and the senses, the thoughts, emotions, and yes, qualia are determined. As Chalmers would say, everything supervenes on the physical (not what he believed, but that is the language he would use).
