RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any ?
October 11, 2018 at 10:05 am
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2018 at 10:08 am by polymath257.)
(October 11, 2018 at 10:01 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:(October 11, 2018 at 9:46 am)polymath257 Wrote: Everything we have shows that consciousness, thoughts, emotions, feelings, etc are ALL aspects of how the brain processes information.Can you make computer have subjective experience? What C++ code will make CPU feel pain?
Quote:The concept of a philosophical zombie is a thought-experiment that is ultimately incoherent: such entities could not exist.Why? Can you prove it scientifically?
Well, what is pain? It is an adversive reaction to a potentially damaging stimulus. I don't see any reason why that isn't possible in silicon.
One problem, at this point, is that our computers tend to not be the massively parallel processors that brains are. They are also not programmed to learn from the environment by use of adversive and attractive stimuli. Finally, they are not currently the result of an evolutionary process involving survival and reproduction in a real world situation.
My belief is that most of these will be required in order to actually produce artificial consciousness, but I may be too pessimistic.
Scientific proof, in the current context, consists of noting that every conscious entity we have ever seen has a brain, that brain states are, in fact, sufficient to explain observed conscious behavior, and there is no reason to suspect anything else is involved. I really fail to see any 'hard' problem of consciousness.
I'd also point out that we wouldn't expect the CPU to 'feel pain' any more than individual neurons 'feel pain'. Pain is a processed state not a simple one.