thinking it feels pah
To be pedantic, science has certainly observed the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness.
If you're making the argument that consciousness doesn't exist, make it. If you're making the argument that only you are truly conscious, have fun with your solipsism.
The problem with p-zombies is that the idea presumes that consciousness isn't a product of brain activity. The idea depends on consciousness being some extra, completely nonphysical state that can be absent while the brain goes blithely on 'pretending to be conscious', and engaging in such absurdities as thinking it can think, thinking it's in love, thinking it prefers Italian cuisine over French, thinking it feels pain when it's hurt, etc. P-zombies are just a thought experiment, most things that are conceivable are not actual; given the fact that each of us experiences consciousness directly, it's perverse to think that everyone else is a p-zombie. It's a situation that could only exist if the world was set up to fool you into thinking other people are real people. It would take a disordered consciousness to actually believe that is equally as likely as everyone else being what they appear to be: a person with consciousness, just like you.
If I thought you were actually serious about all this p-zombie nonsense, I'd recommend that you seek help. Bad things often follow when you stop believing other people are 'really real'.
(October 11, 2018 at 6:20 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Consciousness was never observed in scientific experiment
To be pedantic, science has certainly observed the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness.
If you're making the argument that consciousness doesn't exist, make it. If you're making the argument that only you are truly conscious, have fun with your solipsism.
The problem with p-zombies is that the idea presumes that consciousness isn't a product of brain activity. The idea depends on consciousness being some extra, completely nonphysical state that can be absent while the brain goes blithely on 'pretending to be conscious', and engaging in such absurdities as thinking it can think, thinking it's in love, thinking it prefers Italian cuisine over French, thinking it feels pain when it's hurt, etc. P-zombies are just a thought experiment, most things that are conceivable are not actual; given the fact that each of us experiences consciousness directly, it's perverse to think that everyone else is a p-zombie. It's a situation that could only exist if the world was set up to fool you into thinking other people are real people. It would take a disordered consciousness to actually believe that is equally as likely as everyone else being what they appear to be: a person with consciousness, just like you.
If I thought you were actually serious about all this p-zombie nonsense, I'd recommend that you seek help. Bad things often follow when you stop believing other people are 'really real'.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
