(October 11, 2018 at 11:22 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:You want to believe that? Fine. Imagine us all out of existence and fuck right off happy in your bubble of pointless solipsistic navel gazing. What is stopping you from doing just that?(October 11, 2018 at 11:16 am)polymath257 Wrote: I disagree. if they are able to report experiencing qualia, discussing qualia in detail, etc, it is meaningless to say they don't experience qualia.By definition p-zombie can talk about qualia without experiencing it. You can even teach computer to do that.
(October 11, 2018 at 11:22 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:Well, if one's personal opinion is science-based, rather a lot.(October 11, 2018 at 11:16 am)polymath257 Wrote: And that is sufficient *from a scientific perspective* to say they are, in fact, conscious.What does science have to do with your personal opinion?