RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any ?
October 11, 2018 at 12:18 pm
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2018 at 12:42 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(October 11, 2018 at 11:35 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:(October 11, 2018 at 11:32 am)polymath257 Wrote: I disagree. Consciousness involves a real-time interaction with an environment. Furthermore, it is distributed over the brain and so modeling of one part of the brain is not sufficient.Mice clearly feel pain. You can simulate their brian it is much smaller
Correction from my previous notation: It turns out that 40 minutes to simulate 1 second of brain activity was to simulate 1% of human brain activity. And supercomputers are very inefficient, they require millions of watts of power and cost over a million dollars a year just for the electricity. What you are proposing would be very difficult at this point in time, but had I one of the fastest supercomputers in existence at my disposal and tens of millions of dollars to burn doing that instead of something with a more immediate pay-off, I would be interested in trying it.
So we simulate a mouse brain and simulate hurting it, and get the same reaction as a real mouse. You say it didn't feel pain because it's a p-mouse and a p-mouse will always react just like a real mouse, so it doesn't really feel pain.
You're proposing a difference that doesn't make any difference. It's just as reasonable to propose that the wind is p-wind, not true wind, you just can't detect the difference. The sun isn't a real sun, it's a p-sun, it seems to be the same in every way to a real sun, but it's not.
If you can't tell any difference between something with or without 'p', 'p' is a functionally useless distinction.
(October 11, 2018 at 11:37 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:(October 11, 2018 at 11:33 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: That is a flat out lie.
P-zombies have same brain activity as conscious person
Then there is no reason to think they are not conscious people.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.