RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any ?
October 11, 2018 at 12:40 pm
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2018 at 12:53 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(October 11, 2018 at 12:06 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote:(October 11, 2018 at 12:01 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Every scientist has observed qualia by experiencing them directly.That's subjective experience not scientfic experiment.
You can go so far with discounting subjective experience that it becomes a rabbit hole only you can dig yourself out of. I can't help you if you're that far down the hole. The Galileo experiment? Experienced subjectively because everything is experienced subjectively. If you can't trust a scientist to report an internal state of mind, which is what consciousness is you can't trust that their subjectively experienced experiments have any meaning either. Or that there even is an external state to observe. All we have for sure is the reality we each perceive, if you can't make the leap that the points on which we can find agreement constitute objective verification, then you might as well believe that you are the only thing that is real and everything you experience is imaginary.
(October 11, 2018 at 12:01 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Are you going to answer the question of your personal position on p-zombies? Do you think they actually exist? Do you believe everyone but you is one?
(October 11, 2018 at 12:06 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Scientifcially we are all p-zombies
Scientifically, if there's not even a hypothetical way to experimentally verify it and it has no observational or mathematical basis, it has nothing to do with science. And I asked you what YOUR position is. A straight answer, please.
(October 11, 2018 at 12:26 pm)SteveII Wrote:(October 11, 2018 at 11:48 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: So if he was attesting to the events he writes about and it was 50 years earlier, that would be 50 reasons. Are you willing to apply that reasoning elsewhere?
The answer I gave was 'reasons' why Plutach's writing was different than the NT docs. I rounded.
In other words, each year does not count as a 'reason' and you would never accept that line of thought as a valid reason to discredit a writing you accept. You were going for a funny.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.