God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial?

[lucent]

Now, I happen to think that it takes a lot more faith to think that this all just came about by accident than not. It may be a fallacy to say it, but could anything so amazing and wonderful just happen on its own? Or does the majesty of creation have the creators fingerprints on it

I was just espousing my belief, not predicating an argument upon it. As you can see, I noted it was a fallacious argument. So, you think using Ad Homs against me is any less fallacious? This is your own argument from personal incredulity. I mean it's amusing you interjected just to tell me you don't care, then go on to say that I am intellectual deficient and even to denigrate my choice of nickname. Fairly petty, I have to say. Is this the way you introduce yourself to people?

If this is an example of the truth you represent then even if you were right I would still reject it on the basis of the personality it has generated within you. In any case, insulting me isn't an argument, so if you have anything to offer beyond your cheerful disposition, feel free. To say there was nothing in my post worth responding to shows your deficiency, not mine.

Watch a lot of Star Trek as a child?

Yes indeed it can,however a logical inference is true if and only if the premise is also true. Logical does NOT=true as a general principle.

PLUS with the notion of dark matter,comes the argument of a universe from nothing .IE no prime cause

Ahh, you did include something. The idea of mr. Krauss violates scientific law, specifically the laws of thermodynamics:

http://www.physicsplanet.com/articles/th...modynamics

So, to say the idea is rooted in dogma is incorrect. Science itself affirms you cannot get something from nothing.

Was the Universe deliberately created?

I don't know,but do not believe so (lack of credible evidence)

Now, I happen to think that it takes a lot more faith to think that this all just came about by accident.

Geez,that's twice in the two posts I've read this morning. The other is a dogmatic Muslim. You both use the same basic logical fallacy;argument from personal incredulity/argument from lack of imagination.

For the sake of consistency, I need to explain it to you as I did to him:

A person using that argument is actually saying: "I'm too ignorant,too lacking in imagination or to stupid to think of anything else,and too arrogant or fearful to say "I don't know',therefore god did it"

Can't bothered replying to any more of badly thought out,unoriginal apologist drivel. Most of us have actually have heard ALL of your arguments many times and refuted them many times

The reason I can't be bothered is that attacking your arguments with with reason, logic and evidence will change nothing. Why should it? Those tools have not been used to form or maintain your beliefs. However, the main reason is indifference.: I really don't give a rat's bum about your personal superstitions and corkscrew logic, as long as you stay out of my face.

PS congrats on the hilariously ironic name "Lucent"; latin root ; "lucere=bright,radiant.

PPS,sorry, couldn't resist:

I also believe that logic demonstrates that there must be an eternal first cause.

Watch a lot of Star Trek as a child?

Yes indeed it can,however a logical inference is true if and only if the premise is also true. Logical does NOT=true as a general principle.

PLUS with the notion of dark matter,comes the argument of a universe from nothing .IE no prime cause


Video by physicist Lawrence Krauss,NOTE: I make no truth claims.I merely present a view contra to the dogma "nothing comes from nothing"