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Lying for God
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RE: Lying for God
(October 14, 2018 at 1:32 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(October 14, 2018 at 1:27 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Parents, family, and friends exist.

Deities, angels, prophets, heaven and hell, the Easter Bunny, these are all things people claim to exist but only provide evidence for that they, thenselves, would accept, not the rest of us.

Parents, family and friends exist in a manner we can't just deny they exist because we know they do for sure.

Why can't your god communicate with us in a manner to make himself/herself demonstrable in a way that we are just as sure as we know that our Parents, family and friends exist?

Quote:God, if we love him and search for her, she will guide us towards the pointer that points to her great self.

So, if we start with the unsupported presupposition that god exists, then we will find pointer's to his/her existence?

How do we tell the difference between the difference between these pointers actually pointing to an existent god, or confirmation bias?

Quote:If we wish to deny everything linked to him, deny accountability, deny our deeds forming part of us, deny perpetual identity, deny the nature of who we are, deny morality and guidance needing to be from him to have a reality, etc, or choose to not reflect over any of these things, we can forget him and cease to see him.

First you need to demonstrate your god exists, before I agree to any of that other crap.

Quote:But the path back to him is easy, witnessing him witnessing you, is vey easy, because you can't be defined in exact form without him, and you are defined.

I define myself. No need for gods to do the job.

I do not see any evidence that there is a god for me to "witnessing him witnessing me". All I have is YOUR CLAIMS that said god exists. Please demonstrate his existence.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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Lying for God - by purplepurpose - October 14, 2018 at 12:16 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Minimalist - October 14, 2018 at 12:29 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Deesse23 - October 14, 2018 at 1:03 pm
RE: Lying for God - by MysticKnight - October 14, 2018 at 1:08 pm
RE: Lying for God - by purplepurpose - October 14, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Lying for God - by MysticKnight - October 14, 2018 at 1:26 pm
RE: Lying for God - by purplepurpose - October 14, 2018 at 1:50 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Gwaithmir - October 14, 2018 at 5:17 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Astreja - October 15, 2018 at 1:19 am
RE: Lying for God - by The Valkyrie - October 14, 2018 at 1:27 pm
RE: Lying for God - by MysticKnight - October 14, 2018 at 1:32 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Simon Moon - October 14, 2018 at 1:49 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Dr H - October 15, 2018 at 7:34 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Joods - October 14, 2018 at 1:58 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Minimalist - October 14, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Lying for God - by MysticKnight - October 14, 2018 at 2:03 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Simon Moon - October 15, 2018 at 11:42 am
RE: Lying for God - by MysticKnight - October 15, 2018 at 11:45 am
RE: Lying for God - by purplepurpose - October 15, 2018 at 11:57 am
RE: Lying for God - by Alan V - October 14, 2018 at 2:08 pm
RE: Lying for God - by LastPoet - October 14, 2018 at 2:09 pm
RE: Lying for God - by purplepurpose - October 14, 2018 at 2:34 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Minimalist - October 15, 2018 at 1:45 am
RE: Lying for God - by WinterHold - October 15, 2018 at 11:14 am
RE: Lying for God - by robvalue - October 15, 2018 at 2:36 am
RE: Lying for God - by MysticKnight - October 15, 2018 at 10:42 am
RE: Lying for God - by Astreja - October 15, 2018 at 11:05 am
RE: Lying for God - by MysticKnight - October 15, 2018 at 11:20 am
RE: Lying for God - by WinterHold - October 15, 2018 at 11:27 am
RE: Lying for God - by Astreja - October 15, 2018 at 1:09 pm
RE: Lying for God - by MysticKnight - October 15, 2018 at 1:14 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Gwaithmir - October 16, 2018 at 5:53 am
RE: Lying for God - by WinterHold - October 15, 2018 at 2:07 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Astreja - October 15, 2018 at 3:17 pm
RE: Lying for God - by WinterHold - October 16, 2018 at 5:34 am
RE: Lying for God - by Astreja - October 16, 2018 at 3:22 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Dr H - October 17, 2018 at 2:49 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Astreja - October 17, 2018 at 3:03 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Angrboda - October 16, 2018 at 3:38 pm
RE: Lying for God - by MysticKnight - October 15, 2018 at 11:29 am
RE: Lying for God - by WinterHold - October 15, 2018 at 11:34 am
RE: Lying for God - by MysticKnight - October 15, 2018 at 11:36 am
RE: Lying for God - by WinterHold - October 15, 2018 at 11:56 am
RE: Lying for God - by MysticKnight - October 15, 2018 at 12:11 pm
RE: Lying for God - by WinterHold - October 15, 2018 at 12:18 pm
RE: Lying for God - by MysticKnight - October 15, 2018 at 12:21 pm
RE: Lying for God - by WinterHold - October 15, 2018 at 12:22 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Deesse23 - October 15, 2018 at 12:32 pm
RE: Lying for God - by WinterHold - October 15, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: Lying for God - by MysticKnight - October 15, 2018 at 12:28 pm
RE: Lying for God - by WinterHold - October 15, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: Lying for God - by MysticKnight - October 15, 2018 at 12:40 pm
RE: Lying for God - by WinterHold - October 15, 2018 at 1:00 pm
RE: Lying for God - by robvalue - October 15, 2018 at 12:35 pm
RE: Lying for God - by MysticKnight - October 15, 2018 at 12:36 pm
RE: Lying for God - by WinterHold - October 15, 2018 at 12:47 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Minimalist - October 15, 2018 at 12:39 pm
RE: Lying for God - by Minimalist - October 15, 2018 at 12:53 pm
RE: Lying for God - by purplepurpose - October 15, 2018 at 12:55 pm
RE: Lying for God - by MysticKnight - October 15, 2018 at 1:03 pm
RE: Lying for God - by robvalue - October 16, 2018 at 5:39 am
RE: Lying for God - by WinterHold - October 16, 2018 at 7:04 am
RE: Lying for God - by robvalue - October 16, 2018 at 8:23 am
RE: Lying for God - by WinterHold - October 16, 2018 at 1:16 pm

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