(October 14, 2018 at 2:03 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Simon Moon, you asked some good questions (the first two).
I have to get to details on them. God can communicate only through a veil directly to a person which would make the person the veil or through an Agent.
In the case of an Agent, it makes sense for God to do that, if we at that time are more veiled from ourselves which communication through the veil of who we are will not attain much certainty to be from God.
However, how to tell the Agent is from God? You see what complicates it, is the Unseen realms and beings are not all holy, some of them are going the wrong way.
The Agent for all we know is a misguided or deceiver.
So if not from our own veil (and if we are veiled and corrupted, our veil nd self as the burning bush would not be a very good proof) and we can't discern a trustworthy spirit (Angel) from deceivers (devils) or misguided Jinn (who think they are enlightened but are not)....
Then God as a mercy - it maybe be better to veil us from these realms till we have the ability to discern God's Name from false claims of his name, his holy spirit from false claims of that, etc.......
And it be better he doesn't try us with that world.
Of course if he tries us by those beings and we fail, you easily will become mad and crazy, I know, because it happened to me.
So Messengers will prove through a different means, and prepare us to walk the unseen road.
They reach out to humans, so they don't have to all become acquainted with the unseen realms right away, but rather, can live life and have a connection to that realm by words and language, but also to a degree begin to hone their inner eyes and see the light the book calls to.
The more they try to connect (the purpose of five daily prayers/connections), the more they will hone in it the right direction.
If they reflect over Quran, they will be able to recognize the dangers in the unseen realms and they will prepare by good actions and supplications, so they can make it there in one peace.
God also could prove things beyond doubt, and make the truth as bright as day, but when humans rebel against the light, he veils it, and allows the night to take over so that they find rest and try to find God's star his light in the darkness and so through that light recognize their Lord and make it through the veils.
The Angelic realities are not easy to discern, to see them as truthful is not easy when you aren't familiar with them, and to discern falsehood from truth is anything but easy.
God's proof in all realms remains the same, and in this world, there is a human who is that proof.
Yeah...
It would be nice if you could demonstrate ANY of the above.
All I see is unsupported assertion after another.
Not sure why I expected anything else.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
