RE: Atheism is unstoppable.
October 15, 2018 at 3:05 pm
(This post was last modified: October 15, 2018 at 3:18 pm by SteveII.)
(October 15, 2018 at 2:27 pm)PRJA93 Wrote:Your opinion is that it will die off. You don't seem to have any reasons it will die off.(October 15, 2018 at 10:15 am)SteveII Wrote: I honestly don't know. I do know that religion is here to stay. I think countries will wax and wain in their religiosity. For example, I think there will be a Christian revival in Europe in the next 2 generations because I think that humans, by-in-large, need religion to answer questions they can't live without (I'm talking about society on a macro level). Eventually you get a generation that sees the nihilistic philosophy of their parents (however far that needs to go and whatever manifestations it has--I don't know) is untenable and go looking for answers. In my opinion, Christianity is the most coherent alternative if you want to reject atheism.
And while statements like "religion is here to stay" can sound very ominous and final, they're not.
Things change, people evolve, ideas grow and die. In medieval times, people probably said things like, "Torturing non-believers is here to stay," and while those things may still occur in some places of the world, societies by and large have let that kind of thinking die off. So while you may see religion as a "cornerstone" of what it means to be human, I see it as another useless tradition that will eventually die off. So we can agree to disagree and that's okay. And, that last part of your post is laughable.
Your ability to have a discussion without insulting the other person is noted.
(October 15, 2018 at 2:27 pm)PRJA93 Wrote:(October 15, 2018 at 10:15 am)SteveII Wrote: I honestly don't know. I do know that religion is here to stay. I think countries will wax and wain in their religiosity. For example, I think there will be a Christian revival in Europe in the next 2 generations because I think that humans, by-in-large, need religion to answer questions they can't live without (I'm talking about society on a macro level). Eventually you get a generation that sees the nihilistic philosophy of their parents (however far that needs to go and whatever manifestations it has--I don't know) is untenable and go looking for answers. In my opinion, Christianity is the most coherent alternative if you want to reject atheism.
In my opinion, Islam is the most coherent alternative if you want to reject atheism.
In my opinion, Taoism is the most coherent alternative if you want to reject atheism.
In my opinion, Judaism is the most coherent alternative if you want to reject atheism.
In my opinion, Buddhism is the most coherent alternative if you want to reject atheism.
So on
And so on.
Why do you think more adults convert to Christianity than any other religion (by far)? See--this is how a conversation goes. Instead of mocking grandstanding, you can ask for reasons for my belief. Even though you don't didn't ask, here is the evidence I have.
- Pew Research estimates that 40 million people are expected to convert to Christianity between 2010-2050, and 106 million people are expected to leave Christianity during that period (resulting in a net loss of 66 million).[3] This is in contrast to most other religions, including Islam and Hinduism, where the number converting in is roughly similar to the number converting out.[3]
- According to the World Christian Encyclopedia, approximately 2.7 million people convert to Christianity annually from another religion, with Christianity ranking first in net gains through religious conversion.[12]
- Studies estimate significantly more people have converted from Islam to Christianity in the 21st century than at any other point in Islamic history.[13] Conversion to Christianity has also been well documented, and reports estimate that hundreds of thousands of Muslims convert to Christianity annually. Significant numbers of Muslims converts to Christianity can be found in Afghanistan, Albania,[14] Azerbaijan,[15][16] Algeria,[17] Belgium,[18] Bulgaria,[19][20] France,[21] Germany,[22] Indonesia,[23] Iran,[24][25][26][27] Kazakhstan,[28]Kyrgyzstan,[29] Malaysia,[30] Morocco,[31][32] Netherlands,[33] Russia,[34] Saudi Arabia,[35] Tunisia,[36] Turkey,[37][38][39][40] Kosovo,[41] The United States[42] and Central Asia etc.[43][44] Many of the Muslims who convert to Christianity faces social rejection or imprisonment and sometimes murder or penalty, for becoming Christians.[45]
- Data from the Pew Research Center show that, as of 2013, about 1.6 million adult American Jews identify themselves as Christians; most are Protestant.[46][47][48] According to the same data, most of this group were raised as Jews or are Jews by ancestry.[47] Data from 2013, show that 64,000 Argentine Jews identify themselves as Christians.[49] According to 2012 study 17% of Jews in Russia identify themselves as Christians.[50][51]
- Conversion into Christianity has significantly increased among Korean,[52] Chinese,[53] and Japanese in the United States.[54] In 2012, the percentage of Christians in these communities were 71%, 30% and 37% respectively.[55]
- Due to conversion, the number of Chinese Christians has increased significantly; from 4 million before 1949 to 67 million in 2010.[56][57]
- Due to conversion, Christianity has grown in South Korea, from 2.0% in 1945[58] to 29.3% in 2010.[56]
Any questions/comments? How about the first bullet? What do you think that means?