RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial?
September 25, 2011 at 5:52 am
(This post was last modified: September 25, 2011 at 5:59 am by fr0d0.)
Interesting points lucent, not that I'd quite agree with your conclusions, but I have no arguments against it, beyond contradiction, which seems the best we've achieved here so far.
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Does science tell us that? One theory does. Some posit a re-occurring start point [don't they?]. And how do you conclude that this must have been "timeless, immaterial and transcendant"?
[personally: I believe this, but I also believe that this cannot be independantly verifiable]
I am also unconvinced by the fine tuning arguments. Chance is it did happen. A slim chance but a successful one. Although I do understand that logical order is intrinsic to the natural world and God fit's.
lucent Wrote:Science tells us the Universe had a beginning. More specifically, that time space and matter had a beginning. Therefore, whatever caused the Universe to exist is timeless, immaterial and transcendent
Does science tell us that? One theory does. Some posit a re-occurring start point [don't they?]. And how do you conclude that this must have been "timeless, immaterial and transcendant"?
[personally: I believe this, but I also believe that this cannot be independantly verifiable]
I am also unconvinced by the fine tuning arguments. Chance is it did happen. A slim chance but a successful one. Although I do understand that logical order is intrinsic to the natural world and God fit's.
