(October 17, 2018 at 9:04 am)OakTree500 Wrote:(October 17, 2018 at 8:02 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: How so? What principles or reasons, lead you to this conclusion?
Mainly the way some have said "you're provided no evidence" and then you keep dodging the idea of doing such a thing.
I mean, you either can prove it or you can't. Right now I'm leaning more towards "You can't" so, whatever man it's your life.
I wouldn't use the word "prove", but that is more a matter of precision. Proof is for deductive logic and math. And often, I'm not setting out to "prove" anything. I find that most atheists here are familiar with the evidence, even if they cannot admit it as such (I've talked to some to seem to indicate, that it is not evidence, unless they believe the conclusion).
I set much smaller goals, and often I am more interested in the basic principles and reasoning, rather than setting a high bar of convincing those who don't want to be convinced. Focusing in on more the details and the smaller picture, rather than the larger one. Such as your claim that the writings of the New Testament authors is not evidence (which you didn't answer my question), or even the broader one, that theists and Christians provide no evidence. It's more these things, that I think need to be examined, before collecting and analyzing the larger picture of the evidence. And as I noted, I think that atheists often jump around, and once you meet the goal, they shift it to something else, and then move it along again, and then come back to where you started.
I get tired of the changing of the goal posts, and assumptions; such as here, where I made a comment about one thing, and in order to dodge the statements and questions, and it always gets changed to proving God, where we really won't discuss anything or get to demonstrate of that famous atheists critical thinking.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther