RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any ?
October 17, 2018 at 10:50 am
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2018 at 10:53 am by OakTree500.)
(October 17, 2018 at 10:43 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(October 17, 2018 at 10:34 am)OakTree500 Wrote: Well, no. You're the one claiming it's true, so you have to prove that it's correct. As always, that's the burden of proof.
The problem is with "Miracles", in the billions [or thousands if that's your belief] of years that the earth has been in existence, and all these supposed miracles that have happened, why has it never happened to a scientist?
You suppose god knows that atheists are questioning it, why not perform a miracle and turn all our science books into bibles in front of our very eyes? Better yet, why not just physically appear in the sky right now, and tell us it's real?
You say "oh well you can't predict a miracle etc etc" well that's bull shit I say. You're only "proof" they EVER happened is in the NT and OT. Without that, you have nothing, other than the word of crazy people who say they've seen something that they haven't.
Steve, with said burden, you have to prove yourself right.
And you are the one claiming that it is not... which means that you share a burden of proof to show that is true. This appears to be nothing more than pseudo skepticism and your comment about scientist nothing more than scientism. You don't need a scientist to tell you what to believe. They study specific things, and share that information that they gather with you, the same as anything else. They don't see any better than any other random person.
You don't need a scientist to tell me anything, but what I mean is why hasn't this happened to anybody or even a group of people who can record this accurately? Why is it always, at least in the modern day, happening to those in third world countries where the rate of religion [and scamming people] is very high? Why do these things, that aren't then like "oh please lord, let me win the lottery" for people in America/England or any country where this seemingly never happens? Do certain places on earth have more "holyness" that others? I mean, the point is: why is this either a) something that ONLY happened 2000+ years ago or B) happening today, but to complete rando's in the middle of nowhere, where nobody who is reliable in any sense can confirm or deny anything? I can 100% tell you right now, nobody from america or england who is legitimately and medically confirmed to be crippled, has suddenly got out of bed and walked again. It's never happened. So why not?
The burden of proof is solely with those that mean to prove it. I have to prove nothing, because there is nothing for me to present. I say miracles don't happen.....because they don't, so what am I supposed to give you in return? Much like unicorns, I have nothing to prove "nothing" doesn't exist, so therefore you have to prove me, and everybody else wrong. That's how that works.
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