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Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
(October 20, 2018 at 2:38 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(October 19, 2018 at 9:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The concept of the family of guidance of the time is repeated through out Quran. One of the things Quran corrects the Bible in, is that it emphasizes that there was a family among the Israelites that was like the family of Abraham.

The Messengers were in a form of chosen family: (see verse 2:246-248)
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I find it astonishing that you can't see the way that one family managed to reach power and stay in power in all that.

The inability to understand basic human psychology will be the downfall of humanity...

They stood in power, but not in the way you think. They weren't in power in the way Ummayads and Abbassids had power, rather, they were in power through ruling the hearts by which God is seen as the True King. 

This is why the Gospels of Jesus taught to his disciples and paraphrased by God in different ways, is important.

True Kings doesn't mean they will be accepted by people and people will accept them, it means they ought to accepted and followed, and those who follow them, do so because God is the True King.

If you study a little bit of history, you can see the family of Mohammad was oppressed, the 12 Successors faced hardship and oppression and their followers were killed, kicked out of the land, jailed, and some even tortured, by the governments that ruled through the falsehood and sorcery on the hearts.

They ruled the world in the same Jesus ruled the word, through being God's chair and authority on the hearts of Humans and Jinn, and through the punishment of turning away from them being the same as turning away from God!

The Quran when it mentions something even once it's vitally important.   Sometimes things are only said once because of the significant impression that verse has, like the "God is the light of the heavens and earth" wasn't repeated in Quran through out. It's probably the most celebrated verse regardless and is loved more then repeated things in Quran.

Repetition also has it's uses. 

The thing about the clarification of the household of the reminder, of the past to the present, it does so both repetitively but also it brings significance with respect to other subjects, and creates impressions and verses that are unique about it.

It's somewhat of a synthesis and middle ground between repetition and unique impression verses.

Verse 42:23 for example, has the use of the word "Al-Qurba" and it's only used there, where as in other places, "dul-Qurba" or "ulil-Qurba" is used (for example regarding war booty), and other places we see the words "bayt" or "Ahlul-bayt" or "Aul" or "Ahl", so it uses different words that all mean in the context the same thing, but in the case of 42:23, since it's emphasizing on a very high level of love towards the near kin of the Messenger, it uses a word that reminds that they nearest of all people to the Messenger, who we owe a great deal of gratitude towards for the message, and ought to appreciate God's Message through loving his family.

The Bible before it even got to the family of Abraham it talked about envy. The problem of evil is envy. It's the envious who are evil and it's the well-wishers that are good. 

The family of Abraham each chosen leader and Prophet faced a lot of envy from family members that were not chosen, by the word family in the latter use I mean in the general sense, in the former use "family of Abraham", I meant in the chosen special sense.

The family of Mohammad are envied so much and there is so much evil created in the hearts with respect to them, but this envy is anything but natural, it's unnatural, and blindness ot them in Quran is best explained by dark magic.

We saw the issue of the family of Aaron clarified in Quran in Suratal Baqara, but still Muslims believe Yushua is the one who inherited from Moses and was his successor. Yushua was only put in place AFTER God BROKE HIS PROMISE TO THE FAMILY OF AARON IN THE TORAH- does the Quran acknowledge this?

It refutes by emphasizing there is a chosen family of the past and the whole purpose of the family of Abraham was to clarify what was meant by the family of Aaron which is also the family of Moses. The Quran will go further and say the family of Moses and Aaron is in fact the family of Imran Imran who is the grandfather of Jesus as well.

"Surely God chose Adam and Noah and the family of Abraham and the family of Imran above the worlds. Offspring some of it from some, indeed God is Hearing, Knowing." (3:33-34)


Somehow Muslims have become immunized to these verses and their hearts harden and don't realize their evil ways of envying the family of Mohammad. The Quran shows way of the past only to clarify the way of the present.

This verse is saying just as he chosen Adam so did he choose Noah, and just as he chose the family of Abraham, so did he chose the family of Imran, and we will see special words when it comes to the need of Zakariya inheriting through offspring. The need of Zakariya having a son to inherit him is vitally important to understand the constant structure of these chosen families.

Another thing that was emphasized in this Surah was that God manifests the purity of the likes of Mary who are from the household of guidance of the time. This is going to be important when Quran condemns clergy classes claiming righteousness and purity and authority of the Prophets with no proof from God. 

Another thing we will look in light of this is what the word "asbat" truly means in Quran.  I will argue it references to branches of a blessed tree of Prophethood, and that all are inheritors of the founder.  We will also take help from hadiths in this respect, including from Sunni sources.

The question then remains how much is the similarity and how much is the difference.  The similarity is they are related by blood and by light and by cause and by rank. And the difference is that as well. And the similarity with no difference is that each founder of a nation is followed with Twelve Captains that navigate the ship he built after him and continue to be the means to salvation for humans and the people who the revelation has been revealed to.

The Quran cannot be separated from the family of the reminder. Among it's clear proofs and foundations is how the past Prophets were sent. And they were never sent alone. They were always followed by successors.

We showed so far two verses about this subject. But once things get clarified you will see this is probably the most emphasized subject in Quran after oneness of God and it's integrated with many subjects including the truth of the light brought down.

May God make us believe in the light he has revealed and brought down to humanity the truth that is with Ali and Ali is with.
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RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran. - by MysticKnight - October 20, 2018 at 10:59 am

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