(October 28, 2018 at 12:50 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: @MK
Dude, your heart is in the right place... exactly the right place. But your philosophical positions need refinement. For one, you need to stop answering questions with dogma. And you need to stop considering those who promote atheism as deceivers. Many atheists are committed to discovering the truth--as much as (if not more than) you. Food for thought.
I proved it individually - we get confused by what we know and what we don't, then truth becomes the same as falsehood. We can't really know anything for real, if we believe in falsehood to the same degree as the truth we believe in and should be certain of.
I proved it collectively - we ought to unite on truth. Building on fantasy and falsehood is wrong, building on lies will not guide people aright and will not make us real with reality as is.
God is no exception to the rule. If he doesn't exist, then it's upon us to unite and build society, without his help. And if he exists, it's upon us to find his guides and his rope and help on earth.
There is two different outcomes. If God doesn't exist, religions should be ignored. If God exists, they should be studied.
As for Atheists, and Theists, we aren't discussing their ethical place. I've clarified many times, I consider most humans to be seekers of truth, including Atheists, including you guys, and even those afflicted with mocking God's signs, they need a level of proof of clear miracles, before I will call them disbelievers. And even then, they should be given some time, to digest what they saw, before being called disbelievers who never believe and are firm in not accepting any proofs.
