(November 2, 2018 at 8:56 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote:(November 2, 2018 at 8:22 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Take away everything. What's left is nothing. Don't strain at that gnat.
Including space? Atoms? Nothingness is just a nonsensical concept to me.
Why? You didn't exist 4 billion years ago did you? So why would our universe needed to have existed prior to the singularity?
Instead of thinking of it as something vs nothing. Think of it as like a light switch which goes from the "off" position to the "on" position fluctuating between those two states.
Laurence Krauss has put it, and quite aptly so "Nothing is unstable". Meaning a quantum state of "nothing" cannot stay that way.
I see "all this" including the hypothesis's of parallel universes, multiverses, and bubble universes as simply one giant wave function. Like water boiling, expending all it's energy until it runs out of energy back to a state of "nothing", only to have another quantum twitch that leads to something.
We still have yet to figure out nothing prior, or something prior sure, but none of what science is pointing to needs anything super natural to cause. Just like each season on our planet is finite and over lapping but keeps repeating.
It is hard for the layperson to think of particles popping in and out of existence but they do. Just like it is hard to think of a particle as both a particle and a wave at the same time.
Point is stop stressing over it, it is what it is, and answers do not come from speculation or denial.