I wouldn’t be a Christian

[vulcanlogician]

Until you do, and on a daily basis, I don't think you should be pointing fingers. I have to interact with them frequently and my distaste for christians/christianity is well earned. While they claim belief in the "god of love" their words and actions often betray them. Words and actions often directed at my lack of belief.


If you want to live in a philosophical safe zone that's fine. I'm not afforded that luxury.

I'm in the unique position where I sympathize with what both of you guys are saying.

To wyzas, I'd point out that folks like Augustine have an interpretive mode that most American Christians would consider some kind of heresy. The value that Belaqua sees in Christian thinking really ought not be associated (at all) with what most American Christians believe.

To Belaqua, I'd point out that folks like Augustine have an interpretive mode that most American Christians would consider some kind of heresy. Augustine's sort of thinking is not at all what we associate with Christianity. But you can't blame us for that. If you take issue with that, you need to point the finger at modern evangelicals... not us.

Edit: Also, Belaqua... you might be giving Augustine a bit too much credit.