RE: Exodus 21
November 6, 2018 at 2:49 pm
(This post was last modified: November 6, 2018 at 2:50 pm by Drich.)
(November 6, 2018 at 1:56 pm)Bahana Wrote: My original post had nothing to do with being all loving. It seems obvious to me that this book was written by ancient men and not inspired by a being who is all knowing. If people can read things like that and still consider the Bible to be divinely inspired then there is not much more to talk about.
if this where true then why the sudden prohibition on treating slaves any way you like? this was clearly counter culture.. not to mention while restrictive by today's standards the bible gave women rights for the first time as well. again very counter morality at the time. The link to the table of crime I posted a few posts backs were prime examples of what men of that time thought and enacted concerning what was right and wrong and fair compensation for being wronged.. which clearly had nothing to do with scripture. the holy Scripture had it's followers go miles beyond what 'man' thought was moral.' this level of concern or care was absurd and unheard of in that day.
When putting things back to an apples to apples comparison meaning when you compare how much above and beyond the morality of the bible was when compared to the laws and what was allowed, you can clearly see a huge difference between what was 'moral' by society's standard and what the bible was asking for in change.
It is when not so smart people take this command out of context and compare it with the modern definition and understanding of slavery do you see a slant that favors what maybe considered immoral law. but when you reframe what was side in the time it was said, the law becomes ground breaking and unheard of in a time where your people where treating slaves without rules.
(November 6, 2018 at 1:42 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(November 5, 2018 at 11:27 am)Drich Wrote: how about economic survival. how about that is what ALL your nasty ancestors were if not slaves themselves were also doing without a thought to regulation or rights.
Remember whatever you have to say here you only condemn your hypocritical selves. even today nothing has changed only our vocabulary concerning those who work dependant on the company because they do not get paid a living wage. (which is 2/3 of the planet) who would otherwise starve without their slave wage jobs.
Quote:I do considering no economy of any nation ever created has not been built on the backs of slaves that was successful. Meaning only an all knowing God knew the society needed slaves in order to get on it's feet and support it self. and I think this is evidence of an agape' filled God as no such rules has ever protected the rights of a slave. wich to this point and even after never been done. Meaning man never has been unprompted to mandate slave rights.
Dritch is a perfect example of how religion can cause someone to abdicate their humanity in difference to their ridiculous beliefs. Just look at how he has to stoop to false equivalency to 'wage slavery' in order to try to justify his support for slavery in the Bible.
Sorry Dritch, but there is no hypocrisy. The Bible condones slaves as chattel, with ability to pass them to your children, to beat them as long as they don't die in a couple of days, that you are allowed to take slaves from "the heathens around you"....
Also, there is no hypocrisy, because we never claim that humanity is infallible, maximally moral or maximally powerful (as Christians claim for their god), so we are likely to make moral mistakes. So, your god is so weak, that he couldn't come up with any other method other than owning other people as property, in order to create viable economies?
What a small, weak god you believe in, Dritch.
what a small weak mind.. what where your people doing back then without God? how much worse off were people under your ancestors???