(November 6, 2018 at 11:33 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(November 6, 2018 at 9:39 am)Little Rik Wrote: When I was a kid and I was forced to go to church by my parents the priests were saying very very clearly that hell is a place where sinners are burned which is far from the idea that hell is a separation from God.
These days some among the Roman church have in part changed the music by saying that hell is a separation from God.
Every day so to speak we hear a new story.
Tomorrow we may even hear a total different story.
Who knows?
Who knows? Certainly not you.
(November 6, 2018 at 9:39 am)Little Rik Wrote: In any case God has absolutely nothing to do with all religious dogmas invented by the clergy.
What can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.
(November 6, 2018 at 9:39 am)Little Rik Wrote: Why should I prove that the Christian God does not exist?
Already explained. If the Christian God exists, and hell is separation from God, then hell exists. You can't prove that there doesn't exist separation from God, so your only argument against this kind of hell is to prove that the Christian God doesn't exist. Get cracking, slacker!
(November 6, 2018 at 9:39 am)Little Rik Wrote: Christians and Muslims can go on and on with their dogmas as far as they like and at the same time believe in God.
I could give a shit what you believe without evidence or argument. You think atheists are dogmatic. You are wrong. You think you aren't dogmatic. You are wrong. You think a lot of stupid shit. Nobody cares.
FOOL.

Obviously Christians got it totally wrong and here I am not just talking whether they are right or wrong in saying that hell is a separation from God.
I also agree that a separation from God can be hell but this hell is not eternal and is only perceived by highly spiritual beings that are getting closer and closer to God but are not there yet or from criminals that once they die realize that their mistakes got them farther away from God with the obvious result that they will have to be reincarnate in some animal bodies or worse into matter.
Christians only believe in one life so for them once you are in hell you are there for ever.
No second chance given therefore this separation is eternal.
This is not what Jesus was teaching.
He was teaching right the opposite same same as Buddha, Shiva and Krishna.
The Christian God exist as it exist for everybody else.
The only problem with them however is that they lost the original message that is why they believe in only one life and eternal hell and eternal hell would be a real hell which in reality can not exist.
