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HELL or not HELL?
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RE: HELL or not HELL?
From Rational-wiki:

Quote:"The hell meme developed from Gehenna, which was the name of the Jerusalem city dump. Gehenna was constantly smoldering with spot fires which never went out and Jesus taught several parables about the worthy going to see Abraham after they died while the unworthy were thrown into Gehenna."

All other mentions of hell are translation issues , This is backed up by:


Quote:There Are 4 Distinct Words Translated As “Hell”
Most of the confusion around Hell starts with translation error. There are four separate Hebrew and Greek words which are translated into the single English word “Hell”, despite having drastically different meanings.
  1. Sheol (Hebrew)

  2. Hades (Greek)

  3. Tartarus (Greek)

  4. Gehenna (Greek)


The English language is often very limited when trying to express certain concepts. A perfect Biblical example of this is the multiple Greek words translated to the single English word “Love”. Agape is a special version of love that speaks about God’s love toward humanity. Phileo speaks about brotherly love and Eros refers to sexual love or desire.

And just like “love”, the English word “hell” is unilaterally translated from the Greek and Hebrew words Sheol, Hades, Gehenna, and Tartarus, each of which have different meanings.

1. Sheol (H7585)
שׁאל    שׁאול
she’ôl  she’ôl
sheh-ole’, sheh-ole’
From H7592; hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranian retreat), including its accessories and inmates: – grave, hell, pit.


2. Hades (G86)
ᾅδης
hadēs
hah’-dace
From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1492; properly unseen, that is, “Hades” or the place (state) of departed souls: – grave, hell.


3. Gehenna (G1067)
γέεννα
geenna
gheh’-en-nah
Of Hebrew origin ([H1516] and [H2011]); valley of (the son of) Hinnom; gehenna (or Ge-Hinnom), a valley of Jerusalem


4. Tartarus (G5020)
ταρταρόω
tartaroō
tar-tar-o’-o
From Τάρταρος Tartaros̄ (the deepest abyss of Hades); to incarcerate in eternal torment: – cast down to hell.


Below, I’ve listed the full 13 times “Hell” is used in the NASB translation of the Bible. Sheol and Hades are always correctly translated as “the grave” in the NASB and other more accurate translations, which is why you don’t see any references below. I’ve included those words in our discussion simply because they will come up incorrectly as “Hell” in the KJV.

You’ll notice that NONE of the above 4 words actually translate to Hell. The closest is Hades, which is derived from Greek mythology and is never actually translated to “Hell” in academically accepted translations. Sheol and Hades are both always translated as “death” or “the grave” in the NASB and other more accurate translations. And as we are about to see, neither Tartarus nor Gehenna can be correctly translated as “Hell” either.

In other words, “Hell” is NOT actually in the Bible.
But a claim like this warrants a worthy defense, and that’s why we are going to look at EVERY single time the word “Hell” is used in the Bible.
Using the NASB, we see 13 references: You will notice then that the full conversation of “Hell” comes down to 12 Gehenna mentions and 1 mention of Tartarus.

Tartarus is not a normal Greek word. Like Hades, it’s the name of a place/person in Greek mythology, appearing in writing 700 years before Christ as part of the Greek poet Hesiod’s Theogony. It denotes a dark place below even Hades, and accordingly, is the only one of our 4 words to have “eternal” torment inherently linked to it.

Even if you want to use Greek mythology to defend your views of God, 2 Peter 2:4 isn’t talking about people. It’s talking about where God sent fallen angels.
So if you’re keeping track, this leaves us with only ONE single word on which to base our Biblical analysis of the word “Hell”.


Gehenna.

[Info above from: http://www.brazenchurch.com/hell-in-the-bible/]
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HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 3, 2018 at 10:28 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by purplepurpose - November 3, 2018 at 10:32 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 3, 2018 at 10:47 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Minimalist - November 3, 2018 at 10:48 am
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RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 3, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 3, 2018 at 11:32 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 3, 2018 at 11:41 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 4, 2018 at 5:34 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by chimp3 - November 4, 2018 at 9:00 am
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RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Whateverist - November 3, 2018 at 11:40 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 3, 2018 at 11:41 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 3, 2018 at 12:01 pm
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RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Brian37 - November 3, 2018 at 11:57 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Gwaithmir - November 3, 2018 at 12:04 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by no one - November 3, 2018 at 12:14 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Duty - November 3, 2018 at 1:59 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by purplepurpose - November 3, 2018 at 2:28 pm
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RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Brian37 - November 3, 2018 at 3:31 pm
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RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 4, 2018 at 10:34 am
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RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 4, 2018 at 7:04 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 5, 2018 at 5:02 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by LastPoet - November 5, 2018 at 5:41 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Duty - November 6, 2018 at 12:22 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 6, 2018 at 9:39 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 6, 2018 at 11:33 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 7, 2018 at 10:29 am
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RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 8, 2018 at 9:26 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 9, 2018 at 9:10 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 9, 2018 at 2:35 pm
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RE: HELL or not HELL? - by no one - November 6, 2018 at 11:54 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by OakTree500 - November 7, 2018 at 12:19 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 7, 2018 at 12:49 pm
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RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Whateverist - November 7, 2018 at 12:54 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by OakTree500 - November 8, 2018 at 6:18 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 8, 2018 at 8:47 am
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RE: HELL or not HELL? - by WinterHold - November 9, 2018 at 8:18 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 9, 2018 at 9:37 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 9, 2018 at 10:43 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 9, 2018 at 11:08 am
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RE: HELL or not HELL? - by The Valkyrie - November 9, 2018 at 2:04 pm
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