(November 7, 2018 at 6:19 pm)Belaqua Wrote:(November 7, 2018 at 9:32 am)wyzas Wrote: Your putting forward that Catholicism as an example of good religion/christianity?
I would never try to excuse the bad things that the Catholic Church has done.
I brought up the changes that Thomas Aquinas made to Catholic theology in order to say that there is not only one Christian way of thinking over the centuries. Theology evolves, and when we speak of "Christian thought" we have to specify more clearly what we're talking about.
If you want to put the idealist christian thinkers throughout time on a pedestal I'm OK with that (for you). I think that you'd have a difficult time giving examples where the totality of these thoughts were taken up and practiced by the church or the masses. Philosophical academia rarely survives outside of academia except as ideals.
And I'd still like to see examples of "only with/by/thru god" can these ideals exist. Any god is a mental concept/construct created by man. Claiming a god exists, other than as a concept, is a psychological tool for human manipulation.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.