(November 7, 2018 at 8:29 pm)wyzas Wrote: Adam had no words as he did not exist except as a concept invented by mans imagination. Just the same as the Fall does not exist.
That's true. The issue I mentioned was the question of whether words can have more than a contingent relationship with the things they refer to. The philosophy of language is based on two foundations, for the most part: Plato's Cratylus and the Jewish/Christian belief that a perfect language would be possible in an unfallen world. As I mentioned before, language philosophers don't have to believe in a historical prelapsarian world in order to think about the contingency or essentialism of words. Atheists like Eco still refer to the "language of Adam" as a term for non-contingent language. I didn't decide that, they just do.
https://www.amazon.com/William-Blake-Lan...ge+of+Adam
Quote:Just because ideas were developed by christians does not support the existence of a god or a continued belief in christianity.
That's true, and I have never said otherwise.
Quote:It is an institution whose time is ending.
Maybe, maybe not. Best not to write things as facts if they are really desires.
Quote:Are are plenty of historical ideas/actions that came about because of christianity that I wish had never existed/occurred. I hope that you do also. To not take these into account is simple one sided thinking.
The good things are good and the bad things are bad. Knowledge of which is which requires accuracy about what was really said, by whom, for what purpose, and with what results.