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HELL or not HELL?
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RE: HELL or not HELL?
(November 8, 2018 at 8:08 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote:
(November 8, 2018 at 7:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If the utmost of evil are not punished and are rewarded with paradise ..

If such people God treats them well, then what is the purpose of Anger and hate towards evil?  ...

Easy answer -- there is no God, and no life everlasting.

If you hate evil, then work to stop it, in this world.  There isn't another world to "sort things out".

I do believe in evil, but I don't believe in Evil.  We know ill intent when we see it, because we are all capable of it.  It is up to us to call it out and fight against it. 

There are also lots of gray areas where we have to work hard to figure out what good is.  It doesn't come down from on high on tablets, and each generation makes its own judgments.

If you care about the war in Yemen, or any other issue, have you made your voice heard?  Prayer does nothing, unless it spurs you into some sort of positive action.

Your post is kind of related but at the same off-topic to the OP.

The OP is saying to defend the logical position of hell. If there was only grey Areas I agree there would be no clear distinction between good and evil, and misguidance and guidance would have less of an opposition, but I am talking from the framework:

1) God exists.
2) He sent Prophets to establish his authority and appointed true Guiding Kings after he sealed revelations.
3) These humans and their followers have faced a lot of oppression and there has been great mischief in the land and in the past, to hide their truth.


In the framework, I argue:


The envy towards God's beautiful names and trespassing their sanctity is one of the worse evils you can do that merits you hell.

This is because when truth becomes clear, there is no longer a muck of grey, and God separates the good and evil in a very distinct manner when the proof is high and the word of God is manifestly proven.

Some people in this age, they know better, and some people don't.  God is forbearing overwhelmingly over the evils of those who don't know better but even if they can fall to disgrace that can never be repaired.

He sent Messengers to clarify the issue of his Guiding Kings and their authority through clear words of a revelation and they interpret it as it comes along, and I am talking from this framework.

I don't want to talk about what good and evil would mean without God or without Messengers or without a Guide and connection to God present today.
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HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 3, 2018 at 10:28 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by purplepurpose - November 3, 2018 at 10:32 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 3, 2018 at 10:47 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Minimalist - November 3, 2018 at 10:48 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 3, 2018 at 10:54 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 3, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 3, 2018 at 11:32 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 3, 2018 at 11:41 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 4, 2018 at 5:34 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by chimp3 - November 4, 2018 at 9:00 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Minimalist - November 3, 2018 at 10:59 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 3, 2018 at 11:15 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by LostLocke - November 3, 2018 at 1:38 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Minimalist - November 3, 2018 at 5:29 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by LadyForCamus - November 3, 2018 at 11:31 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Whateverist - November 3, 2018 at 11:40 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 3, 2018 at 11:41 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 3, 2018 at 12:01 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 3, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Brian37 - November 3, 2018 at 11:57 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Gwaithmir - November 3, 2018 at 12:04 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by no one - November 3, 2018 at 12:14 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Duty - November 3, 2018 at 1:59 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by purplepurpose - November 3, 2018 at 2:28 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by robvalue - November 4, 2018 at 9:46 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Brian37 - November 3, 2018 at 3:31 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Silver - November 3, 2018 at 2:33 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by brewer - November 3, 2018 at 3:40 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by The Valkyrie - November 3, 2018 at 3:45 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Ravenshire - November 3, 2018 at 7:22 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by The Valkyrie - November 4, 2018 at 4:22 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Jackalope - November 3, 2018 at 3:56 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Duty - November 3, 2018 at 4:04 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by chimp3 - November 3, 2018 at 4:08 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Aegon - November 3, 2018 at 4:33 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Astreja - November 3, 2018 at 5:28 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by snowtracks - November 3, 2018 at 7:59 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Brian37 - November 4, 2018 at 9:05 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 4, 2018 at 9:08 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by snowtracks - November 4, 2018 at 8:58 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 5, 2018 at 1:29 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 3, 2018 at 11:13 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Bucky Ball - November 4, 2018 at 9:15 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by possibletarian - November 4, 2018 at 10:01 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 4, 2018 at 10:34 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Aoi Magi - November 4, 2018 at 10:51 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 4, 2018 at 7:04 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 5, 2018 at 5:02 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by LastPoet - November 5, 2018 at 5:41 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Duty - November 6, 2018 at 12:22 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 6, 2018 at 9:39 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 6, 2018 at 11:33 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 7, 2018 at 10:29 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 7, 2018 at 11:08 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 8, 2018 at 9:26 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 9, 2018 at 9:10 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 9, 2018 at 2:35 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Peebo-Thuhlu - November 4, 2018 at 7:16 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by LastPoet - November 5, 2018 at 4:41 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Peebo-Thuhlu - November 5, 2018 at 5:42 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by no one - November 6, 2018 at 11:54 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by OakTree500 - November 7, 2018 at 12:19 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 7, 2018 at 12:49 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by OakTree500 - November 7, 2018 at 1:00 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 7, 2018 at 1:53 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Whateverist - November 7, 2018 at 12:54 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by OakTree500 - November 8, 2018 at 6:18 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 8, 2018 at 8:47 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by OakTree500 - November 8, 2018 at 8:51 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Grandizer - November 8, 2018 at 9:52 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by OakTree500 - November 8, 2018 at 10:09 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Grandizer - November 8, 2018 at 8:31 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by OakTree500 - November 9, 2018 at 6:48 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by MysticKnight - November 8, 2018 at 7:19 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by HappySkeptic - November 8, 2018 at 8:08 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by MysticKnight - November 8, 2018 at 8:16 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by HappySkeptic - November 8, 2018 at 8:27 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by MysticKnight - November 8, 2018 at 8:32 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by HappySkeptic - November 8, 2018 at 8:53 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by MysticKnight - November 8, 2018 at 8:55 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by WinterHold - November 9, 2018 at 8:18 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 9, 2018 at 9:37 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 9, 2018 at 10:43 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Little Rik - November 9, 2018 at 11:08 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by LastPoet - November 9, 2018 at 11:12 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by The Valkyrie - November 9, 2018 at 2:04 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by MysticKnight - November 9, 2018 at 1:54 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Nay_Sayer - November 9, 2018 at 11:46 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Amarok - November 9, 2018 at 11:55 pm
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by outtathereligioncloset - November 10, 2018 at 12:11 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Amarok - November 10, 2018 at 12:15 am
RE: HELL or not HELL? - by Angrboda - November 10, 2018 at 12:23 pm

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