HELL or not HELL?

[Mystic]

I don't want to talk about what good and evil would mean without God or without Messengers or without a Guide and connection to God present today.

Try to obey what is commanded by these "messengers of God" about how to treat your slaves, your wives, your rebellious children, and those who rebel against belief in god, and we will see you in jail.

You are going off-topic.  If I interpret Islam and abandon most of Quran by what the infiltrating Pharaohs will have us believe, yes, I would end up in jail in trying to obey God and his Messenger by what these evil people attributed to Him.

My approach however is not only not to follow a hadith without knowledge, but even not follow an interpretation of a verse unless it's proven beyond doubt to me.  This is not possible by conjecture system called "ilmel rijaal" but rather you when reflecting have to take a leap of faith, that hadiths and Quran, as in true hadiths and true interpretation of Quran, somehow go together and manifest wonders, but this is to be downloaded and perceived through reflection.

I don't claim to know all they taught nor claim to represent God and his Messenger and those who hold the Authority from us, but I make them the focal point of my attention for enlightenment.

Choose who you wish for enlightenment, I have recognized the family of the reminder and tree of light who branches bring about the best of fruits.

It's just a matter of time before I replace my perception of Quran with a whole new higher level perception.  I no longer doubt it to be from God.