RE: If you're an Atheist, what comforts you?
November 9, 2018 at 7:33 am
(This post was last modified: November 9, 2018 at 7:40 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 7, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Dragonfly Wrote:-and many people also celebrate thanksgiving. All of society is built atop rituals that lend to a sense of unity and continuity. Lighting candles on a sabbath is a representative of that set.(November 7, 2018 at 1:19 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Is there anything specific to judaism that you have difficulty imagining a secular source of?
Rituals that lend to a sense of unity and continuity, such as when Jews light sabbath candles at the same time around the world every Friday and have for hundreds of years.
Quote:Structure: A community that has a structure in place for celebrating and mourning. There's a detailed plan laid out for when a loved one dies. The plan helps the family know what to do and how to grieve and heal. The plan also involves the community, so they are there to support you.Here again I fail to see how judaism offers structure in some way that the entirety of human culture and society doesn't?
Quote:Prayer and Scriptures: Hope and comfort/soothing in times of stress. I can find some comfort in nature and other things, but nothing so far is coming close to the way I felt/believed when I believed in God.The things you were taught to believe when you believed in god are likely the cause of that difficulty, themselves.
I understand that you get these things from judaism, I was wondering more about things that you couldn't get elsewhere. Many of us engage in rituals that lend to a sense of unity and continuity, many of us have structure in our lives, all of us have ways of finding comfort in times of stress. That strongly suggests that you could get all of the above elsewhere, you just don't.
If I/we were being honest...though.... you already do, and always have, even when you were a believer you availed yourself of secular rituals, unity, continuity, and structure...and all of the stuff you just mentioned has to do with people doing things...the religious import is literally being manufactured out of secular moving parts. I get the yearning for community, what I don't get is the conflation of community with religion, as though these things common to any community of people could only be gotten from judaism. It doesn't seem like god was doing anything up above, you were being comforted by the tribe.
Go find a new tribe - or just stay in the one that you're already in, since they're providing all of the above? It doesn't actually matter whether or not god is real for any of that..right?
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