(November 9, 2018 at 10:43 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(November 9, 2018 at 9:37 am)Little Rik Wrote: Just the opposite darl.![]()
I got the evidence of doctors, of independent witness and most of all the evidence of ex atheists that are now total believers.
I assume that you're referring to NDEs. You claimed five things:
1. Christians have it wrong.
2. Hell is not eternal.
3. Jesus' original message did not include an eternal hell.
4. He was teaching the same as Buddha, Shiva, and Krishna.
5. Christians have lost the original message of God and Jesus.
First, NDEs include accounts that both include support for Hell and the original question as well as support for other views. The only way you get a clear message from NDEs is by cherry picking which ones to consider reflect the truth about God and reality, and ignore the ones that don't, or reinterpret them through your religious filter. The first is not sound logically, so such evidence is not valid. The second is basing the interpretation of the evidence upon your beliefs, which themselves are based on the interpretation of that evidence, and so is circular and also invalid. So your NDEs aren't evidence for any of these things. Second, the evidence that NDEs describe something real is equivocal, and the evidence they provide for something real only relates to the OBE portion of an NDE. The rest may be bullshit. Since there's no evidence that the portion of NDEs which supports your claims is real, they are not evidence for your claims. As I said, you got nothing. Moreover NDEs aren't evidence of nos. 3,4, and 5. So even if your NDE evidence were valid, it would only acquit half of your claims.
Failed once again yog.

How can you blame me of cherry picking when the percentage of those who claimed to see hell is 1 or 2%?
Obviously this tiny minority didn't have a real NDE.

(November 9, 2018 at 9:37 am)Little Rik Wrote: What about you yog?
What evidence you got to support your beliefs that I mention in the previous post?
Quote:Already answered at least twice and not relevant to this thread. That you don't remember is only evidence that you are incapable of learning.
Answering is one thing.
Produce evidence is a different story.
Since you never produce any evidence to back up your beliefs then it means that all these beliefs are a load of BS that can only be found in your fantasy-brain.
