RE: I wouldn’t be a Christian
November 11, 2018 at 6:52 am
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2018 at 6:53 am by Belacqua.)
(November 11, 2018 at 6:35 am)Khemikal Wrote: You asked for other savior figures. It's a global archetype. I was actually surprised that you weren't aware of the competition that jesus had just in that one little corner of the world.
And you didn't give me any. There are none in the Eleusinian or Bacchic Mysteries. There were other would-be saviors in Palestine at the time of Jesus because of Hebrew belief in the need for a savior. It is a belief from Hebrew culture, not Greek culture. If you want to claim that it is a global idea, you have yet to provide any evidence.
Quote:It would be far sillier to say that the christian music (just as one example) of europe did not owe it's existence to the contributions of a musical culture that vastly predated christianity. Again, people changed the religion into their local flavors. Christian music..in syria..does not sound like christian music.....in a southern baptist church.
For the last time, I am not claiming that Christian music, or anything else Christian, has no roots.
Bruegel could only have painted his pictures in a Protestant Christian culture. Van Eyck could only have painted his pictures in a culture steeped in Christian devotio moderna. Michelangelo could only have painted his pictures in a Neoplatonic Christian culture. Music, literature, drama, what have you -- If you want to trace the origins of these ideas back further, that's fine. You could go back to single-celled organisms. But for whatever reason the ideas became Christian, and the works are deeply Christian.
Anyway, you are working hard to deny significance to anything Christian, and I think this is very strange.
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