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God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial?
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RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial?
The issue isn't evidence. You and I are both looking at exactly the same evidence. Same Universe, same planet Earth, same history, same archaeology, etc. The difference is how we are each interpreting that evidence. We each have a worldview that comes with certain presuppositions through which the evidence is interpreted. You presuppose naturalism, or perhaps empiricism, while my worldview is based on the bible. Our worldviews are both competing to claim the same evidence, and we have each have our own reasons as to why we think our case is better. So please keep that in mind as we delve into this.

Genesis 1:1

In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

We could probably spend the entire time just on this verse alone, because it disputes the entire secular account of how the Universe came to be, the origin of life, and everything else that goes with it.

Let's start with the basics. The most widely accepted theory for cosmology is the big bang. The theory postulates that space, time and matter all had a beginning. Now, out of all the religions in the world, the Genesis account is the only one to say that time had a beginning at creation. Therefore, we can rule out every other religion at this point, because none of them matches this basic fact except Genesis. The bible clearly shows that God created the Universe independently of time.

Specifically: in the beginning (time) God created the Heavens (space) and the Earth (matter).

The hebrew words here literally refer to the entire physical cosmos of space time and matter.

Robert Wilson, one of the discoverers of the Cosmic Microwave Background raditation said about the Big Bang: "Certainly there was something that set it all off,,, I can't think of a better theory of the origin of the universe to match Genesis"

Now, we know the Universe has a beginning, so that means it had a cause. We can know a few things about this cause.

First, the ultimate cause of the Universe is itself uncaused. This is because you cannot have an infinite regress of causes. There must be an uncaused first cause. This cause must also transcend space and time, because it created them, which means that this cause is immaterial by definition. This cause must be incredibly powerful, because it created all of physical reality, and that from no prior material.

Already you have an eternal, immaterial, all powerful, transcendent cause of the Universe, which is matching up very nicely to Gods attributes. I will take this further but I'll wait for you to respond.


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God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by TheouLive - September 20, 2011 at 8:11 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Cinjin - September 20, 2011 at 8:18 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Cinjin - September 20, 2011 at 8:45 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 24, 2011 at 7:36 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 24, 2011 at 6:30 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 26, 2011 at 4:45 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Erinome - September 20, 2011 at 8:55 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by padraic - September 20, 2011 at 9:27 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by TheouLive - September 20, 2011 at 10:09 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Cinjin - September 21, 2011 at 12:12 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by fr0d0 - September 21, 2011 at 1:18 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 24, 2011 at 6:51 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by theVOID - September 24, 2011 at 8:31 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by padraic - September 24, 2011 at 6:58 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 24, 2011 at 7:31 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by fr0d0 - September 25, 2011 at 5:52 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Stucky - September 26, 2011 at 10:06 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Shell B - September 26, 2011 at 1:08 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Stucky - September 26, 2011 at 10:35 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Stucky - September 26, 2011 at 10:50 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Cinjin - September 26, 2011 at 12:18 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 26, 2011 at 7:58 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 27, 2011 at 1:15 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 27, 2011 at 2:07 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 27, 2011 at 6:42 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 27, 2011 at 10:16 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Shell B - September 27, 2011 at 7:48 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Shell B - September 27, 2011 at 8:23 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 28, 2011 at 4:12 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 28, 2011 at 5:23 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 28, 2011 at 6:06 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 29, 2011 at 6:59 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 29, 2011 at 3:41 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Erinome - September 29, 2011 at 4:21 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 29, 2011 at 5:25 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Erinome - September 29, 2011 at 7:02 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 29, 2011 at 6:50 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 29, 2011 at 7:40 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Erinome - September 29, 2011 at 8:40 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 29, 2011 at 8:52 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Erinome - September 29, 2011 at 9:09 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 29, 2011 at 10:15 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Shell B - September 29, 2011 at 9:37 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 29, 2011 at 8:21 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 29, 2011 at 8:41 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by edk - September 29, 2011 at 8:44 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 29, 2011 at 9:49 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by edk - September 29, 2011 at 8:56 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 29, 2011 at 9:30 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Erinome - September 29, 2011 at 10:01 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Shell B - September 29, 2011 at 10:24 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Cyberman - September 29, 2011 at 10:29 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Cyberman - September 29, 2011 at 11:00 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 29, 2011 at 11:26 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 30, 2011 at 12:32 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 30, 2011 at 12:47 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by Erinome - September 30, 2011 at 12:50 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 30, 2011 at 1:42 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 30, 2011 at 2:03 am
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 30, 2011 at 4:16 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 30, 2011 at 6:14 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 30, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 30, 2011 at 8:37 pm
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial? - by lucent - September 30, 2011 at 10:05 pm

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