RE: Multiple Sclerosis: modern diet doomed us
November 18, 2018 at 1:27 am
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2018 at 2:01 am by WinterHold.)
(November 14, 2018 at 6:18 am)Mathilda Wrote: There are so many things in the diet it could be. Or a combination of many of them. For example it could be intestinal permeability combined with milk consumption. People in the west evolved to be able to drink cow's milk after we got into the habit of drinking it. The gene for being able to tolerate lactose should switch off after childhood but now it's continued into adulthood. I read an article about humans are still evolving and this was one example. I've always had a low level intolerance to milk which got worse in my 40's which is when I got MS. The theory of molecular mimicry for MS postulates that leaky gut syndrome allows lactose into the blood where the immune system learns to see it as a foreign body. And permeability in the blood brain barrier allows it to get through to the brain. So I also suffered from Glandular Fever (Mononucleosis, Epstein Barr virus) over 20 years ago which has also been linked to MS and this could have damaged the blood brain barrier.
I have also wondered about processed oils. They get processed way beyond what they would naturally be eating and appear in almost all the food you buy in the supermarkets. Manufacturers don't care. There is little demand for food without these oils and they allow for greater profits as food can last on the shelf longer. I have often spoken to people who don't have MS but other undiagnosed conditions that they treat by eating healthily. That means whole food and decent unprocessed oil.
I did hear about the two candidates of being an M.S cause, the EBV and the leaking gut. I suffered from stomach issues all of my life too, so if you also had stomach issues, most of M.S patients are reporting the same scenario, then it might be the cause. It looks like something most of us M.S patients have in common.
Eating healthy does always work like charm in making the standard of life better for so many people, for me though I do feel my symptoms worsen instantly as I eat something fatty or full of processed oils. Instantly my eye would deviate, my sight would get blurry, I'll walk funnier even more, all of that happens instantly 5 or 10 minutes after eating the fatty meal.
(November 14, 2018 at 12:59 pm)Minimalist Wrote: It's a possibility.
https://www.healthline.com/health/multip...ial-causes
Quote:Scientists believe that people with MS are born with a genetic susceptibility to react to certain (unknown) environmental agents. An autoimmune response is triggered when they encounter these agents.
At least it has not been ruled out.
And I've been suspicious about modern food processing techniques since I realized that when I was in grade school no one ever heard of a "peanut allergy." This was the 50's and early 60's and every other kid brought a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to school for lunch and no one ever collapsed into a quivering puddle of piss because there was a peanut in the cafeteria. It is not logical to assume that the peanuts changed. It is also not logical to assume that humans changed. Evolution does not work that fast. So what chemicals were introduced into the peanut manufacturing and preserving business? IOW, people who now get deathly ill from exposure to peanuts may not be reacting to the nut but rather to what the producers put into the nut.
I've had the same discussion with vets when they start talking about food allergies in dogs; to chicken, to grain, to whatever. The chicken hasn't changed but now they shoot it up with all sorts of chemicals during processing.
So I don't think you're crazy, Atlas. The problem is that you then get into the genetic component wherein some people do not react at all and others get deathly ill.
Aye, there's the rub, to quote the bard.
A fact I learned was that "the older generation was stronger and more healthy". My father grew up in an environment lacking the brands of food we have today, everything in his environment was very natural -from meat to milk-, all I can say about his health until the time he died was that of a 40 years old or even younger. He changed his diet when he got older and began to abuse processed oils and your-average supermarket goods , and 3 years or so were enough to cause him a stroke that ended his life.
I'll bet on the additives on the supermarket peanut butter flaming up when certain genes are present, these additives were never tested, and personally: I feel their effects instantly, the time I eat something full of fats -Saturated mostly-, or processed oils, I get severe worsening in my M.S symptoms.
