RE: How can you be an atheist?!
September 28, 2011 at 11:52 am
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2011 at 11:54 am by Cyberman.)
(September 28, 2011 at 10:53 am)Jesuslovesyou Wrote:(September 28, 2011 at 10:43 am)Stimbo Wrote: I might have bought this except I see where you palmed a card. Are you seriously touting tide-controlling gravity as the hand of a god that you stated (correctly) does not control tides? How does that work?I didn't state any such thing. I used the word 'could'.
No, you said "couldn't", inviting me to entertain the concept.
JLY Wrote:(September 28, 2011 at 10:43 am)Stimbo Wrote: Physical laws, by their very nature, are impersonal: gravity never answers my letters, and only rarely pops in for a chat.
Perhaps God is impersonal. Perhaps God is indifferent to humans. That doesn't mean he isn't an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent force which exists, like gravity exists.
Then why should we give a damn about it? It keeps out of my way, I keep out of its way. If it's just a force that exists, I'm not going to waste my time on my knees talking to it. Elsewhere you mentioned how we are "suffering in a Godless world". Now "perhaps" this god is indifferent to humans. I wish you'd make up your mind.
JLY Wrote:(September 28, 2011 at 10:43 am)Stimbo Wrote: They are indiscriminate: a priest and a rapist (assuming they're not the one and the same person) will fall from a cliff at the same rate and with the same outcome, for themselves on a personal level and for society as a whole.
I don't understand what you mean, are you implying that they should fall differently if God(s) exist?
Are you implying that a god wielding such forces would not discriminate between follower and sinner?
JLY Wrote:(September 28, 2011 at 10:43 am)Stimbo Wrote: Interestingly, the same laws of physics you ascribe to a god have given us the scientific tools and techniques that terrify your god so much, it has to hide from them.
You don't know who my God is, let alone what terrifies him.
So why does he hide from science?
Also, here we go with the personal attributions to an impersonal force again; and barriers of language won't cut it this time when you use words such as "who".
JLY Wrote:(September 28, 2011 at 9:10 am)Stimbo Wrote: Then stop telling me he loves me.
With the exception of my facetious name, I don't believe I have ever told you Jesus loves you, or promoted Christian ideology of any kind.
You do realise I'm going to hold you to that and remind you of it the first time you do, don't you?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'