RE: What would be the harm?
December 3, 2018 at 2:30 pm
(This post was last modified: December 3, 2018 at 2:50 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
How do we know that someone is healthy? But..no, in direct answer to your question..I don't think that we can be sure that a person is making the Right Conclusions™ based upon their general well being. Sometimes, people in a poor state are positively brilliant and folks hopping along without a care in the world..... damningly stupid.
In the context of moral objectivety (or realism in general)...we usually refer to the rationality of ones propositions, in combination with the information from which they make inference, to determine whether or not they are arriving at the Right Conclusions™. We're attempting a rational conversation right now..you and I...so I assume that you and I share that particular metric. I could use that opportunity to mount one of harris responses to criticism of his brand of scientific realism, while I'm at it.
Why should we value logic?
How come "waffles" isn't a sufficient response to your post? Says who?
At some point, the answer to the question of why, be it logic or well being and why we value either, is just that we do. I could give any number of interim explanations but we could always then ask why we value that thing. Around and around we go....but, to what end? None in particular. This is a separate question from whether or not something has some value, for us -to- value. That question..and that answer, as proposed by value objectivism, is that we value logic because it has value. Because we are capable of apprehending such a value. Much in the same way as we may value wellbeing, or oxygen. Each delivers goods.
That it's not necessarily our valuing that makes something valuable (though obviously it can be!)..but, rather, the reverse. That the fact of it's value can cause -us- to value -it-...as the value of oxygen provides a direct explanation for why we might desire to possess it. Without oxygen, we will die. Without reason, I would be shouting "waffles!" and you would retort "toilet paper toilet paper toilet paper!".
Both of us secure in the knowledge that whatever the fuck either of us is talking about is certainly true and the other guy is damningly stupid!
In the context of moral objectivety (or realism in general)...we usually refer to the rationality of ones propositions, in combination with the information from which they make inference, to determine whether or not they are arriving at the Right Conclusions™. We're attempting a rational conversation right now..you and I...so I assume that you and I share that particular metric. I could use that opportunity to mount one of harris responses to criticism of his brand of scientific realism, while I'm at it.
Why should we value logic?
How come "waffles" isn't a sufficient response to your post? Says who?
At some point, the answer to the question of why, be it logic or well being and why we value either, is just that we do. I could give any number of interim explanations but we could always then ask why we value that thing. Around and around we go....but, to what end? None in particular. This is a separate question from whether or not something has some value, for us -to- value. That question..and that answer, as proposed by value objectivism, is that we value logic because it has value. Because we are capable of apprehending such a value. Much in the same way as we may value wellbeing, or oxygen. Each delivers goods.
That it's not necessarily our valuing that makes something valuable (though obviously it can be!)..but, rather, the reverse. That the fact of it's value can cause -us- to value -it-...as the value of oxygen provides a direct explanation for why we might desire to possess it. Without oxygen, we will die. Without reason, I would be shouting "waffles!" and you would retort "toilet paper toilet paper toilet paper!".
Both of us secure in the knowledge that whatever the fuck either of us is talking about is certainly true and the other guy is damningly stupid!
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